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Post by Tony Bennett 04.10.13 0:36

sharonl wrote:...they [Grange] are just going around in circles...
The full version of this quote is usually 'going round and round in ever decreasing circles'.

Redwood seems to have adapted that.

In the case of Operation Grange, should it be changed to: 'going round and round in ever increasing circles'?.

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Ollie1 04.10.13 0:36

I can't wait to see the reconstruction! Will the shutters & window be open or will they be closed? Wonder how they will get round that one? Have the shutters open or closed or just leave it to our imagination?
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Post by Liz Eagles 04.10.13 0:40

Tony Bennett wrote:
sharonl wrote:...they [Grange] are just going around in circles...
The full version of this quote is usually 'going round and round in ever decreasing circles'.

Redwood seems to have adapted that.

In the case of Operation Grange, should it be changed to: 'going round and round in ever increasing circles'?.
....and releasing non-information to the Press at a time when there is a libel trial taking place in Portugal...
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Post by Tony Bennett 04.10.13 0:40

Ollie1 wrote:I can't wait to see the reconstruction! Will the shutters & window be open or will they be closed? Wonder how they will get round that one? Have the shutters open or closed or just leave it to our imagination?
I think there's no doubt that they will have to show them open as that is the recorded and repeated testimony of Drs Gerald and Kate McCann.

The questions for the reconstruction should then be:

WHEN WERE THEY OPENED?

HOW?

and, most important of all...

BY WHOM?

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Post by Ribisl 04.10.13 0:40

The reconstruction can't possibly question the McCanns' version of events if they are going to allow them to make an 'official' appeal in the same programme.

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Post by marconi 04.10.13 0:44

Are the PJ masochist, accepting a new humiliation?
What is the UK again doing to Portugal?
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Post by russiandoll 04.10.13 0:46

It will be the Kate and Gerry show with all the same old same old from years ago.

 Hope Kate does her curtains whooshing while they were open and closed routine.


 And Gerry does his entry by 2 different doors at the same time routine.

 And one of them does a recon of MO check.....

 and they discuss where JT was standing


 And they discuss the Smith sighting.


 Interesting a broadcast made in Holland and Ireland, both associated with the couple.

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Post by Liz Eagles 04.10.13 0:47

It's all go in October, the libel trial in Portugal, a crimewatch tv programme dedicated to the McCanns, Redwood of the Yard announcing advances in the case (don't titter at the back) and the Rebekkah Brooks trial to begin.
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Post by Ollie1 04.10.13 0:48

Will the McCanns really want a reconstruction? They refused to do one in Portugal saying that it wouldn't work because the worlds media would be there and they didn't think any new information would come of it.
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Post by russiandoll 04.10.13 0:49

The Pink One has tweeted

Clarence Mitchell ‏@mitch_1uk 2m
1/3 New public appeal by Kate and Gerry McCann and Met Police on #BBCCrimewatch on Oct 14. Further appeals on Dutch+German TV #findmadeleine


Clarence Mitchell ‏@mitch_1uk 2m
2/3 Met Police currently have 31 requests in various countries for info on phone usage in Praia da Luz at time of Madeleine's disappearance



Clarence Mitchell ‏@mitch_1uk 2m
3/3 Met appeal for info expanded to Germany, Netherlands and Ireland. 41 people still of interest to Op Grange inc 15 from UK #findmadeleine

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Post by ShuBob 04.10.13 0:51

Tony Bennett wrote:The Daily Express report says that Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann will be in Praia da Luz to help with a reconstruction of the events of 3 May 2007, ahead of the Crimewatch Madeleine McCann appeal which will apparently be shown on Monday 4 October
Is it possible that the couple have been forced by SY to take part in an official reconstruction and this news coming in the middle of the libel trial is just spin?
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Post by sallypelt 04.10.13 0:53

Reconstruction in 4 countries, so let's see what the results will be.
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Post by russiandoll 04.10.13 1:01

The release simultaneously to various media and CM tweeting at this time ?

 That has PR because the libel trial is a shambles written all over it.

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Post by Cristobell 04.10.13 1:01

I wonder how they feel about doing a Crimewatch reconstruction, albeit by going over their evidence again in fine detail with the homicide detectives investigating this case?  Presumably the whole programme will be supervised and directed by the police rather than Gerry?  Will the homicide detectives be as casual as Dave Edgar as to where exactly Gerry and Jez were standing when eagle eye Jane Tanner walked past in her flipflops? Will the man Jane saw carrying the child be the same one as the Smith family saw?  Kate will have to answer the 48 questions for this, wonder how that is going down?
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Post by sharonl 04.10.13 1:04

If you know any of these men, or the woman
 
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or  this man
 
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or this man
 
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or this couple
 
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or six cleaners in a white van
 
or anyone else who visited Praia Da Luz in May 2007 who has a mobile telephone
 
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Post by ShuBob 04.10.13 1:06

Is there also a planned appeal in Portugal- you know, the country where Maddie actually disappeared from?
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Post by Liz Eagles 04.10.13 1:09

ShuBob wrote:Is there also a planned appeal in Portugal- you know, the country where Maddie actually disappeared from?
Now that's the acid test ShuBob.
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Post by ShuBob 04.10.13 1:09

Does this mean that if Gerry's request to testify in their libel trial is accepted by the judge, he'll have a ready-made excuse not to attend? Is SY saving him from himself with the timing of this news? It'll be interesting to see how the trial progresses from here on it IF it actually continues.
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Post by sallypelt 04.10.13 1:10

Tweets saying thatClarence Mitchell is confused asto whether theT9 had mobile phones on the night.

sorry cant give links as I am on a tablet and making a pig's ear of it
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Post by ShuBob 04.10.13 1:11

aquila wrote:
ShuBob wrote:Is there also a planned appeal in Portugal- you know, the country where Maddie actually disappeared from?
Now that's the acid test ShuBob.
Quite!

I'm not sure things are going the couple's way but I'm prepared to be proved wrong.
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Post by jeanmonroe 04.10.13 1:11

russiandoll wrote:SY will have done a reconstruction with their advanced software, this is what we will see  ?

  If the inconsistencies in the statements are not highlighted then it will be very interesting.
 
  Wonder if a rep from the PJ will be there.




ETA...........I JUST READ THAT THE MCs ARE TO BE SHOWN FILMED IN PdL  FOR A RECONSTRUCTION.
EXCELLENT!

The McCanns will FINALLY be able to PROVE that J Wilkins LIED and LIED again about him CROSSING the street to talk to Gerry right outside the gateway leading to 5A.

Because GM has said in sworn statements, demonstrated on Oprah and KM has, in writing, in TWO books, said that it was GM that crossed the street to talk to Wilkins.

Ergo, Wilkins must of LIED!

Even though Wilkins, under threat of prosecution, for giving false statement, stated to LP that HE crossed the road.

ALL on record!

Jane Tanner will be placed 50 metres from where she saw bundleman, that's just BELOW the OC reception entrance, ACCORDING to BOTH McCanns SWORN statements.

The reconstruction will be able to show that the window shutter was 'smashed, jemmied, broken' at 9:15/20pm and NOT after Trish Camerons LIES about it being 'jemmied' AFTER 9:30pm.

Even though the OC manager John Hill, on THE night, is on record, as saying the shutter was not interfered or tampered with in ANY way!

Because according to TC, 'when they last checked at half past nine, windows shut, shutters shut, all asleep, sleeping'

TC statements all recorded on video.

IMO, the McCanns will have absolutely no qualms throwing J Wilkins and their own family member UNDER THE BUS!

I suggest to Mr Wilkins, if you are reading this, to get down the cop shop, quick smart!

You're about to be 'stitched up', big time! imo.

Remember Barry George!
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