Re: Transcript - Gerry McCann interviewed after coming out of court in Lisbon 27 Sep 2013 (ITV News report]

by Monty Heck 29.09.13 10:49

aiyoyo wrote:
Reporter: Gerry, do you have new expectations about f - finding Maddie?

GM: I think, you know, that all the investigation enquiries are being directed to the Metropolitan Police at this time .....
It's now on Court's records that Michael Wright and other family members as well as supporters troll the internet.
Hello Kevin Hello Michael, can you ask Gerry why cant he answer a simple question with a straight answer.

Does he, as her dad, hope she will be found.
Avoiding answering the question to the point with this gibberish nonsense about Scotland Yard, that sounds disingenuous especially when he wants people to continue looking. Blaming people about harming the search is pointless when he himself poisons people against him by his less than candid answer.

The inference of the question is (with Scotland Yard on board) do you have new expectation about finding Madeleine?
What cant he give a congruent yes or no?

It certainly is a strange reply from a father "there for Madeleine and justice". He could have given the standard answer "the new SY investigation gives us renewed hope, etc". This was a golden opportunity to publicly and personally affirm his hope of recovering M alive but instead directs the enquirer to MP investigation. Odd, given that he has just attended court in support of his action to sue someone for saying M is most likely no longer alive, when he himself was unable to affirm that he still has hopes of her being found. Seems like tacit agreement with GA's conclusions, in view of which the case must surely be abandoned? If he does go into the witness box, he may well be asked some rather probing questions in this vein. Small wonder he looked so downcast.

by stillsloppingout 29.09.13 11:27

I have just forced myself to watch Gerry's performance outside the court .
My conclusion is that his purpose was to attend outside the court [ he knew he was NOT going to be heard ] so the UK press will have soundbites re the case that's all , just control management .

He is nervous , because as the old adage goes" be prepared or prepare to fail" .

Because he has only one songs sheet to sing from, so to speak , any live deviation bring's on his nervous trait . [ i used to perform stand up, i could alway's tell the new act's who would die on there ass ] . Gerry i guess may be good at his job, but terrible outside his comfort zone , hence nearly running away at the court in 2007 .

Kate imo; being either mad / bad / or a hard faced Scouser has no trouble lying , hence if they are finally ever brought in for questioning, he will be the weak link, she will just stay silent and maybe even stare at one spot on the wall !!! .

Finally i have no doubt they are separated , he appears to have initially thrown her to the wolves . if they were a couple there undoubtably would have been another child [ it would have been a good marketing ploy big grin

]. that in its self confirms my suspicions .

by Willo 29.09.13 11:42

Gerry McCann said on Friday in public "Kate and I know better than anyone what we have experienced and what we have been through."

So why would he wait to the last minute to try and give his tuppence worth? Surely if he was that confident he and Kate 'knew better than anyone' why was he not there from the start?

It looks to me as if it is a publicity stunt. Gerry to the rescue, TM knowing full well beforehand the spin that would be put on the court not allowing him to say his piece. The UK papers will have a field day.

A good strategy until he found out that he now could be called up by the defense. No wonder Isabella was looking to the heavens. It shows me that they have been abandoned by their top advisors and they are standing more or less, family and friends aside, alone. Very strange after all the preferential treatment they are used to. Frightening for them.

I also extrapolate a little. That could mean that the shady unseen people that are really behind this farce have covered their trail. They exist alright. This latest show shows how naive the McCanns and their counsel really are. They wouldn't have lasted any where near this long without substantial help. These helpers, maybe rich, appointed unscrupulous VIP's. Lords? MP's? Freemasons? Knights? Footballers, New Order? Policemen? I don't know. Whoever they are they are no longer afraid of what damage the McCanns would cause to the establishment if/when they roll over. Which is also frightening. They feel safe!!

I wonder if any high profile people have died recently? Suicides? Accidents? Missing? Or just plain murdered? All cleverly arranged. It could be interesting to make a list of any VIP deaths over the last six or so years. Those that could perhaps lead a trail to the big boys higher up the chain. It would have been a sort of culling of their own as a fire gap is created around the real villains removing the dangerous, weak and unreliable. Paying people off is not a option in these circles. There is only one way to guarantee anyones silence!

I'm sure anyone involved in any criminal behaviour leave a trail of contacts and even if contacts are used on a 'need to know' basis they could be traced back. I would hazard a guess and say any evidence and potential witnesses have erased in one way or another in a huge cover up and ultimately the show will go on. Very frightening.

by susible 29.09.13 12:03

I really doubt that Willo, I have never gone with the huge conspiracy, because if there had been one, we just would never have heard of the McCanns or Madeleine and going on that line of thought about people being "disappeared" then I'm quite sure that Kate would have been enabled in her push a button/wiped out on the motorway musings.

No, I think that they just got lucky, the story sold newspapers, the media were happy with that and as such forced the McCann viewpoint on the public, who were initially quite happy to swallow it...time has dragged on though and even those who still believe in abduction are fed up to the back teeth with the McCanns...and now their luck is running out. No Richard Branson, no Brian Kennedy, no JK Rowling, these people deserted the McC's a long time ago imo and now they're left with the likes of Mother Hubbard, Michael Wright, a couple of somewhat shady private investigator/trauma specialist types and that's about it.

Their days are numbered, I feel quite confident about that.

by Liz Eagles 29.09.13 12:09

susible wrote:I really doubt that Willo, I have never gone with the huge conspiracy, because if there had been one, we just would never have heard of the McCanns or Madeleine and going on that line of thought about people being "disappeared" then I'm quite sure that Kate would have been enabled in her push a button/wiped out on the motorway musings.

No, I think that they just got lucky, the story sold newspapers, the media were happy with that and as such forced the McCann viewpoint on the public, who were initially quite happy to swallow it...time has dragged on though and even those who still believe in abduction are fed up to the back teeth with the McCanns...and now their luck is running out. No Richard Branson, no Brian Kennedy, no JK Rowling, these people deserted the McC's a long time ago imo and now they're left with the likes of Mother Hubbard, Michael Wright, a couple of somewhat shady private investigator/trauma specialist types and that's about it.

Their days are numbered, I feel quite confident about that.

Madeleine's number of days prior to her disappearance are 1,452.

by Willo 29.09.13 12:22

Someone has been pulling the strings behind the scenes. Someone who could make Prime Ministers jump, interfere with forensics and police procedure, control the press, get Amaral removed from the case, kill Amaral's dog, withhold evidence, refuse phone records and bank records, drum up charges against Amaral involving another case and I'm sure many other interferences.

There is no way in my mind they were lucky.

by susible 29.09.13 12:57

Willo wrote:Someone has been pulling the strings behind the scenes. Someone who could make Prime Ministers jump, interfere with forensics and police procedure, control the press, get Amaral removed from the case, kill Amaral's dog, withhold evidence, refuse phone records and bank records, drum up charges against Amaral involving another case and I'm sure many other interferences.

There is no way in my mind they were lucky.

In which case there's no way the police files would have been released and Amaral would not have had his book published or a documentary made. That's my problem with all of the conspiracy theories, many things do get through to challenge the McCanns version of events and I still believe that the only thing preventing the McCanns being charged in Portugal was the lack of concrete evidence to bring a watertight case against them. Yes, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence, but that is not enough to secure a conviction in Portugal and as such, there was no point in proceeding at that time, therefore rendering the need for bank and medical records moot imo.

The fact that SY moved their review into an investigation tells me that there is no cover up, or else the review would have concluded that Madeleine had been abducted by person(s) unknown and that there was very little chance of finding her alive, the so-called string pullers would have told the McCanns to shut the heck up and move on, and they'd probably have moved to Canada or somesuch, taking the remaining funds with them. There's no way a string-puller at that level would let them continue to bleat on in the press, taking on libel cases in Portugal etc they would just have slunk away quietly, knowing they were safe from prosecution.

However, one look at Gerry McCann's face in his interview on the court steps on Friday tells me that he is still very afraid of prosecution imo

by **tigger** 29.09.13 13:26

Willo wrote:Someone has been pulling the strings behind the scenes. Someone who could make Prime Ministers jump, interfere with forensics and police procedure, control the press, get Amaral removed from the case, kill Amaral's dog, withhold evidence, refuse phone records and bank records, drum up charges against Amaral involving another case and I'm sure many other interferences.

There is no way in my mind they were lucky.

Right on the money Willo!
Might not be just the one but a corporation of ' interested' parties. I.e. not political but as always - money.

@susible. They couldn't control Portugal. Socrates up to a point, most of it is US(amber alert), UK (Brown, Milliband and co), and Europe(DNA database etc).

ETA: imo the were trying to put a lid on it without having looked at the untenable position of the McCanns. If you're going with the abduction, at least it should have been possible....

by Guest 29.09.13 13:39

The McCs are caught between a rock and a hard place:

Posturing as willing witnesses in the libel trial -WHICH THEY WRONGLY THOUGHT THEY COULD NEVER BE- they cannot now backtrack, stating they do not want to appear as such any longer. The media said KH was going to, but that was a 'mistake'. See below.

What explanation would they -or GM alone- be able to provide for a refusal to re-appear when called now?

1. we must look after the twins;
2. it interferes with our job;
3. we cannot afford the airfares-cum-hotel again;

But, putting it into a broader perspective:

4. Due to an extremely recent change in the applicable laws in Portugal, when we are brazen enough to take the stand, everything we say there, under oath, can and will be held against us in evidence during the UK criminal litigation now being prepared by the combined SY and PJ operation.
This, by the way, is the very reason why we were warned not to mess up, by our attendance, the proceedings in Lisbon. It is a caution: you are not required to provide evidence against yourselves. Like the US Fifth Amendment. Our behaviour -going to Lisbon now- flies in the face of SY, PJ. ID knows this. Hence her vituperous "NOTHING" hissed at GM on the steps of the court house.

We were never going to take the stand. It is a lie Kate was prevented from doing so because of the Judges 'personal problem'. She wasn't listed as a witness in the first place. Otherwise, she would have been formally called, and would have had to wait outside the Courtroom so as not to learn what the other witnesses brought forward. She would have been kept apart, so as not to contaminate her testimony. She was never going to testify. Never. She didn't pretend she was. Not for one second.

I, Gerry, thought I could visit the Courthouse too, pretending to be willing -yes: eager- to take the stand. Someone had forgotten to tell me about the change of the Law, permitting just that. Nobody had taken into account the possibility that a delay would occur, a stay of the proceedings, and I just might be called. And now, for crying out loud, what do I do?

So there:

A nasty rock, and an even nastier hard place.

To put it very bluntly: if Gerry shows up, prepared to take the stand and to be cross-examined, he is in fact prepared to sell Kate a/o himself down the river, or risk perjuring himself.

Anyone naming the odds for KH a/o GM taking the stand and being heard under oath during their libel trial in Lisbon?

Thought not!

by Cristobell 29.09.13 13:48

stillsloppingout wrote:I have just forced myself to watch Gerry's performance outside the court .
My conclusion is that his purpose was to attend outside the court [ he knew he was NOT going to be heard ] so the UK press will have soundbites re the case that's all , just control management .

He is nervous , because as the old adage goes" be prepared or prepare to fail" .

Because he has only one songs sheet to sing from, so to speak , any live deviation bring's on his nervous trait . [ i used to perform stand up, i could alway's tell the new act's who would die on there ass ] . Gerry i guess may be good at his job, but terrible outside his comfort zone , hence nearly running away at the court in 2007 .

Kate imo; being either mad / bad / or a hard faced Scouser has no trouble lying , hence if they are finally ever brought in for questioning, he will be the weak link, she will just stay silent and maybe even stare at one spot on the wall !!! .

Finally i have no doubt they are separated , he appears to have initially thrown her to the wolves . if they were a couple there undoubtably would have been another child [ it would have been a good marketing ploy ]. that in its self confirms my suspicions .

He does crumble under pressure. In one interview where Kate is going through her 'and then she moved on' set piece, he gulped in a way that screamed 'we are lying'. When he was made arguido, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights and he was a nervous wreck when he was interviewed by Jeremy Paxman. Kate was remarkably cool when Gerry threw a wobbly after being asked about the 'blood'. If I were one of the defence lawyers next week, I would throw in the words 'blood' and 'dogs' as they throw him completely off track.

by susible 29.09.13 13:50

tigger wrote:
Willo wrote:Someone has been pulling the strings behind the scenes. Someone who could make Prime Ministers jump, interfere with forensics and police procedure, control the press, get Amaral removed from the case, kill Amaral's dog, withhold evidence, refuse phone records and bank records, drum up charges against Amaral involving another case and I'm sure many other interferences.

There is no way in my mind they were lucky.
Right on the money Willo!
Might not be just the one but a corporation of ' interested' parties. I.e. not political but as always - money.

@susible. They couldn't control Portugal. Socrates up to a point, most of it is US(amber alert), UK (Brown, Milliband and co), and Europe(DNA database etc).

But the claim is that they could control Portugal inasmuch that they could get Amaral removed from the case and the European Amber Alert thing fell flat on its face as well, so clearly this alleged massive power isn't really that powerful at all

Yes, I do think that initially Gordon Brown inveigled himself, but soon removed himself from the fray and of course we have a new Govt now, one who are unlikely to kowtow to the likes of the McCanns.

I still can't go with the massive conspiracy theory though, way too many holes in it and the fact remains that if this powerful entity existed, we wouldn't all be sitting typing away about the case on an internet forum

by jeanmonroe 29.09.13 13:53

Cristobell wrote:
stillsloppingout wrote:I have just forced myself to watch Gerry's performance outside the court .
My conclusion is that his purpose was to attend outside the court [ he knew he was NOT going to be heard ] so the UK press will have soundbites re the case that's all , just control management .

He is nervous , because as the old adage goes" be prepared or prepare to fail" .

Because he has only one songs sheet to sing from, so to speak , any live deviation bring's on his nervous trait . [ i used to perform stand up, i could alway's tell the new act's who would die on there ass ] . Gerry i guess may be good at his job, but terrible outside his comfort zone , hence nearly running away at the court in 2007 .

Kate imo; being either mad / bad / or a hard faced Scouser has no trouble lying , hence if they are finally ever brought in for questioning, he will be the weak link, she will just stay silent and maybe even stare at one spot on the wall !!! .

Finally i have no doubt they are separated , he appears to have initially thrown her to the wolves . if they were a couple there undoubtably would have been another child [ it would have been a good marketing ploy ]. that in its self confirms my suspicions .
He does crumble under pressure. In one interview where Kate is going through her 'and then she moved on' set piece, he gulped in a way that screamed 'we are lying'. When he was made arguido, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights and he was a nervous wreck when he was interviewed by Jeremy Paxman. Kate was remarkably cool when Gerry threw a wobbly after being asked about the 'blood'. If I were one of the defence lawyers next week, I would throw in the words 'blood' and 'dogs' as they throw him completely off track.

AND 'sedating/drugging' the children!

That was a CLASSIC 'walk out' but according to Kate who was left sitting there looking a complete FOOL, 'it was 'hot'!

YES Kate it certainly was HOT, for you and him, when asked about 'sedating children'!

by Cristobell 29.09.13 13:54

Portia wrote:The McCs are caught between a rock and a hard place:

Posturing as willing witnesses in the libel trial -WHICH THEY WRONGLY THOUGHT THEY COULD NEVER BE- they cannot now backtrack, stating they do not want to appear as such any longer.

What explanation would they be able to provide for a refusal to re-appear when called now?

1. we must look after the twins;
2. it interferes with our job;
3. we cannot afford the airfares-cum-hotel again;

4: Everything we say can and will be held against us during the criminal litigation intiated by SY asap

Well we had the bizarre 'Police advised them not to go' - but that has since been superseded by Kate's appearance in week one, and Gerry's in week two. This is almost too painful to watch.

by jeanmonroe 29.09.13 14:08

Well we had the bizarre 'Police advised them not to go' - but that has since been superseded by Kate's appearance in week one, and Gerry's in week two. This is almost too painful to watch.
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'Car crash'?

I probably shouldn't say that in case people look up what Kate McCann said about wishing that she could die in a car crash with her husband and remaining children.

by bobbin 29.09.13 14:15

tigger wrote:
Willo wrote:Someone has been pulling the strings behind the scenes. Someone who could make Prime Ministers jump, interfere with forensics and police procedure, control the press, get Amaral removed from the case, kill Amaral's dog, withhold evidence, refuse phone records and bank records, drum up charges against Amaral involving another case and I'm sure many other interferences.

There is no way in my mind they were lucky.
Right on the money Willo!
Might not be just the one but a corporation of ' interested' parties. I.e. not political but as always - money.

@susible. They couldn't control Portugal. Socrates up to a point, most of it is US(amber alert), UK (Brown, Milliband and co), and Europe(DNA database etc).

Agreed also, Willo and tigger.
Then there is the unquestionable 'exclusively one sided' reporting of the press...a silencing/controlling act if ever I saw one, to the extent that Brunt now appears a hollow shadow of the man he once was, before, as a one time decent investigative journalist, he was bent double and sold his soul.
Apart from all the other 'plans' above, I do not rule out a pharmaceutical connection. Uncle John was too quickly on the gravy train, and how did he manage to support his family financially in all this 'search for Madeleine", yet he got his job back no trouble...a drug trial that went wrong? some NHS/healthcare development ? Branson was lining up for some huge private health care scheme backed by govt. including accompanying either Brown or Blair or some toppest govt. bigwig, to China, on some business promotion scheme.
The 'tagging' of prisoners is a reality, and tagging of children was definitely touted by the New World Order cronies. The negligent couple were wheeled out to the EU Parliament, to sport 'tagging'. As if being NEGLIGENT (whilst NOT BEING taken to court for it, or having their other children taken off them) they are competent to represent anything at all to do with Child Safety issues.
There is so much more, indefinable, yet lurking just within view out of the corner of one's eyes.
I think it would be naive to think that higher authorities/interests have not been involved here and it was just a couple of sociopaths and family / or not, with big ideas who got a scam going.
If you ask yourself no other questions, Just ask yourself, WHY would Goncalo Amaral be taken off the case when Socrates was desperate for Gordon Brown to sign the Lisbon Treaty, which is a shocking piece of all embracing 'selling the people up the river' legislation. Why would Gordon Brown even enquire about GA' s dismissal, let alone 'know about' in advance of GA himself knowing.
It's those smelly rats that let the cat out of the bag and set it loose amongst the pigeons. No smoke without fire, the only fly in the ointment is the posters like us, whistle-blowers and people who have a conscience, like Goncalo Amaral, who will not let this rest and who will not buckle.

by susible 29.09.13 14:58

That's all well and good Bobbin, but none of it actually happened did it? Yes, the Lisbon treaty was signed, but has that actually affected any of us anymore than the previous treaties of Europe as it is just an amendment of the Maastricht treaty, and is just about the governance of the European parliament So how anyone could link the McCanns into that is seriously clutching at straws. In fact it nearly didn't go ahead because of the Irish rejection and they only ratified it due to extra inclusions that benefited Ireland, so the Lisbon treaty is just about political posturing within the European union, nothing to do with a couple of neglectful doctors who somehow managed to lose a child whilst on holiday in Portugal. How could they have any knowledge or influence in that sphere? Seriously just give me one example of how they could. That's the problem with all of the purported cover up theories..they just don't hold any water in reality.

There's no compulsory tagging of children, nor is there any suggestion of it and as for us so-called whistleblowers who post on forums, err what exactly have we uncovered...precisely nothing, and as I have said previously, if there were some nefarious NWO operatives, protecting and using the McCanns like puppets, then Gerry McCann would not have been standing on the steps of a Lisbon courthouse stuttering away about facts of the files and the SY investigation relating to a libel trial that they have brought against a former detective, and who look most certainly to lose their case.

I agree that the case has had some weird twists and turns, but that has mostly been created by the McCanns themselves..Confusion is good says Gerry and mostly they have gotten away with their misdeeds due to a massive publicity drive that netted them a fortune in donations from a generous public, which they then used to defend themselves with...no need for protection from faceless, powerful entities when you can afford a lawyer from Carter Ruck.

by **tigger** 29.09.13 15:51

Iirc Brown had ahold over Socrates who'd skimmed off a nice bit for himself re a weapons deal with the UK.
Nothing to do with the Lisbon treaty which would go through anyway. Just the usual corruption.

Just imagine you and your industrial mates decide to go with the abduction for many reasons but mainly massive pharma and microchip/DNA profits from EU. You think it'll be a doddle, doctors after all, a photogenic child, what's not to like?
Too late you discover you
A) are not all powerful in Portugal
B) your doctors are rather more EastEnders than educated middle class
C) the Internet -activated by the couple turns out to be lethally truthful
D) for some reason the PJ are doing their job and can't be stopped
E) MI 5 have taken their eye off the ball and quite a lot of information has leaked out

Imo no option but to elevate to couple to sainthood and keep stopping and spinning the leaks. At present they're dealing with an iceberg and serious damage to the hold....: flag

;:

by marconi 29.09.13 15:57

Sometimes I wonder if the PJ found pink fibers of the blanket's in the Scenic. I think they did.

The Libel hearing will finish in November.
November is not the "coming days".

Once on a 3 months the Yard gives interviews about the case.
The last one was last July the 4th.

by susible 29.09.13 15:57

Precisely my point Tigger, clearly the nefarious deed-doers failed miserably..not so nefarious and powerful after all...and the McCanns, a pair of nobodys, who have no protection whatsoever and who will hopefully face the full consequences of their actions very soon.

by ShuBob 29.09.13 16:09

Cristobell wrote:
Portia wrote:The McCs are caught between a rock and a hard place:

Posturing as willing witnesses in the libel trial -WHICH THEY WRONGLY THOUGHT THEY COULD NEVER BE- they cannot now backtrack, stating they do not want to appear as such any longer.

What explanation would they be able to provide for a refusal to re-appear when called now?

1. we must look after the twins;
2. it interferes with our job;
3. we cannot afford the airfares-cum-hotel again;

4: Everything we say can and will be held against us during the criminal litigation intiated by SY asap
Well we had the bizarre 'Police advised them not to go' - but that has since been superseded by Kate's appearance in week one, and Gerry's in week two. This is almost too painful to watch.

I feel the same.

I just wish they'll come to their senses and withdraw the case before the defence witnesses are heard. I suspect it'll be brutal. I don't care much for Kate and Gerry but do the twins really need to suffer even more because of the callousness of their parents? I think not sad

. Whatever the outcome of the case it can't be good for the parents.

by lj 29.09.13 17:10

stillsloppingout wrote:I have just forced myself to watch Gerry's performance outside the court .
My conclusion is that his purpose was to attend outside the court [ he knew he was NOT going to be heard ] so the UK press will have soundbites re the case that's all , just control management .

He is nervous , because as the old adage goes" be prepared or prepare to fail" .

Because he has only one songs sheet to sing from, so to speak , any live deviation bring's on his nervous trait . [ i used to perform stand up, i could alway's tell the new act's who would die on there ass ] . Gerry i guess may be good at his job, but terrible outside his comfort zone , hence nearly running away at the court in 2007 .

Kate imo; being either mad / bad / or a hard faced Scouser has no trouble lying , hence if they are finally ever brought in for questioning, he will be the weak link, she will just stay silent and maybe even stare at one spot on the wall !!! .

Finally i have no doubt they are separated , he appears to have initially thrown her to the wolves . if they were a couple there undoubtably would have been another child [ it would have been a good marketing ploy ]. that in its self confirms my suspicions .

I agree, Kate being the hard one, and Gerry being the weak link. Kate will not break and all stories about here being depressed or suicidal are really tabloid gossip. Kate is doing what she probably has done all her life: getting it her way and throwing in a tantrum or 2 so people can feel guilty. I also think they are not together anymore, and Gerry is the one that has "moved on" And last but not least I have no doubt that this stunt was not about really testifying, it was another occasion to say : "see Portugal never gave a chance".

Poor twins, by now I am almost more sorry about them than Madeleine.

All my opinion of course.

by jeanmonroe 29.09.13 17:36

tigger:

Imo no option but to elevate to couple to sainthood and keep stopping and spinning the leaks.
_____________________________________________________________

Like SIR Jimmy Savile and SIR Cyril Smith!

You'd love to be mentioned in the same breath as those two 'pillars of society' wouldn't you.................NOT!

by marconi 29.09.13 18:36

It could be that Gerry is about to lose his job, his future and his children.

It is hell for him.

And I wonder if any of Tapas 9 is on the list of paedophiles.

by Liz Eagles 29.09.13 18:47

marconi wrote:It could be that Gerry is about to lose his job, his future and his children.

It is hell for him.

And I wonder if any of Tapas 9 is on the list of paedophiles.

Crystal Ball Consulting?

Much better to quote known data than speculate on such things Marconi. No offence.

by Guest 29.09.13 18:51

aquila wrote:
marconi wrote:It could be that Gerry is about to lose his job, his future and his children.

It is hell for him.

And I wonder if any of Tapas 9 is on the list of paedophiles.
Crystal Ball Consulting?

Much better to quote known data than speculate on such things Marconi. No offence.

Transcript - Gerry McCann interviewed after coming out of court in Lisbon 27 Sep 2013 (ITV News report]