Re: Apartments

by Guest 09.12.10 12:35

Intereting indeed Daoud. Look who was in the room next door.

Seven Eye/Duane Wessels is an interesting booking. The booking was a long term one for a single person - from 3rd March to 2nd May 2007. Seven Eye is part of the Seven Group which has a range of interests including asset management, vehicle tracking, temperature sensing, used truck sales and property management. Whilst Seven Eye is specifically the vehicle tracking part of the group, Seven Property is most relevant as they seem to have property in PDL under their management.

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by Guest 13.12.10 14:12

Palm Bay

28/04-05/05 030 Mark Handy (3) MW
28/04-05/05 0008 Lindsay Elizabeth Mann (4) MW
05/05-12/05 0008 Paul Atterton (3) MW
28/04-05/05 0010 Robin Alan Burton (2) TC
28/04-05/05 0011 Alistair Hynd (5) MW
05/05-12/05 0011 Alistair Stewart Hynd (4) MW
20/04-04/05 0022 Peter Hills (2) owner booking
28/04-05/05 0024 Mhairi Anne Speirs (3) TC
21/04-05/05 0025 Howard Alan Davies (3) MW
05/05-12/05 0025 Mackeson (2) MW
28/04-05/05 0027 Mahan Janczur (4) MW
05/05-19/05 0027 Ring (3) MW
04/05-08/05 0031 Eddye (6) donos booking
28/04-05/05 0108 Brigid Elizabeth Irwin (2) MW
05/05-12/05 0108 Andrew David De La Mare (4) MW
23/04-04/05 0109 Grant (3) donos booking
28/04-05/05 0206 Alastair Clifford (4) MW
05/05-19/05 0206 Mortimer-Ball (5) MW
28/04-05/05 0207 Andrew Taylor (3) MW
05/05-19/05 0207 Suzanne Joy Stinton-Heeley (4) MW
05/05-12/05 0208 Richard Sean Harlow (2) MW
30/04-16/05 0212 Knowles (2) donos booking
21/04-05/05 0302 Dawn Bullen (3) MW
05/05-19/05 0302 Rachel Elizabeth Fricker (4) MW
23/04-01/06 0303 Lordan (2) donos booking
30/04-13/05 0304 Lynn Scharfenberg (2) JMV
03/05-07/05 0306 Kember (3) donos booking
21/04-05/05 0307 Francis McPhillips (2) TC
05/05-12/05 0307 Keith Turner (3) MW
05/05-12/05 0309 Byford / Lim (2) donos booking
05/05-08/05 0401 Towler (4) donos booking
02/05-09/05 0402 Arthur (2) owner booking
02/05-09/05 0408 Susan Mary Swann (2) owner booking
28/04-05/05 0409 Michelle Lesley Stevens (3) TC
05/05-19/05 0409 Hugh Edward Peart (4) MW
28/04-05/05 0610 Anthony Hack (2) owner booking

What do we know about Alistair Stewart Hynd? If this is the right one?, then quite a lot.

Biography
Alistair has over 15 years experience specialising in project finance, PFI, PPP and debt advisory plus financial modelling. He heads the Project Finance and Financial Modelling team that functions within our spectrum of Corporate Finance services. Alistair is an Associate of the ICAEW and member of the Institute's Corporate Finance faculty. He is also a full member of the Association of Corporate Treasurers.

Why would a professional person extend their holiday on the day of departure, with all that commotion going on ?

by Autumn 13.12.10 15:06

Stella wrote:Brace yourselves now !!!! and prepare to go

This has been brought to my attention recently and I thought I would share it with all of you. It has to be one huge coincidence, just has to be. Right ?

In the following appartments we have one Dipa Odedra, a booking for 2 people. Pay particular attention to the start date.

28/04-05/05 S701 Giovanni Masulo (2)
05/05-12/05 S701 Steven Moores (2)
26/04-03/05 S702 Paul Benton (2)
03/05-17/05 S702 William Humphries (2)
26/04-03/05 S703 Derek Hallam (2)
05/05-12/05 S703 Anna Ruth Henshaw (2)
28/04-05/05 S704 Christopher McNamara (2)
05/05-12/05 S704 Simon James Hirst (2)
28/04-05/05 S705 John William Hall (2)
05/05-10/05 S705 Man Kit Yiu (2)
26/04-03/05 S706 Katherine Hulme (2)
03/05-10/05 S706 Ashleigh Maria Mangan (2)
26/04-03/05 S707 Stephanie Jayne Rose (2)
03/05-10/05 S707 Dipa Odedra (2)
14/03-02/05 S708 Seven Eye / Duane Wessells (1) clientes directos
03/05-10/05 S708 Sheralin Jean Minton (2)
28/04-03/05 S709 David Sidney Plane (2)
03/05-10/05 S709 Pharen Neil Thuesday* (2) *spelling as on the list

It's not the most popular of names, which is why when you google it, there is only a couple of hits. A teenage girl in London or loads in Leicester. The postcode attatched to the hits is LE5 4LU. This is the postcode for Barnes Heath House, the home of Leicester Social Services.

What is also attached to that address is Barnes Heath House Children's Home.

Remember the start date ? exactly

There is a Dipa Odedra on MySpace - she is single, aged 27 but you have to subscribe to the blog to read details.

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by Guest 13.12.10 15:34

I wonder if it is the same one Autumn based in Leicester ? It sound like a very unusual name.

I'm not a member of any of those types of social websites and not too keen on joining any really. Perhaps someone else out there is already a member and could take a look?

by Guest 13.12.10 16:09

There are three individual named Dipa Odedra on 192.com and Tracesmart. One is in Ilford, Essex, one in Streatham ( South London) and one from Leicester.

The LE5 4LU Google for Dipa Odedra suggests that she was once a Director of an organisation with this postcode but no longer holds any directorships. ( I will double check this)

There is a Dipa Odedra on Facebook from London and ancestry.com has a record of two people by this name born in the UK in the 1980s.

So the Dipa Odedra on the booking sheets could be from Leicester or from one of the two other areas. The Odedra entry for Leicester is for 2002 only and the other are later so we might only be talking about 2 individuals rather than three ( if the one residing in Leicester in 2002 subsequently moved south)

Barnes Heath House is a children`s home in Leicester, not the Leicester social services HQ.

by Guest 13.12.10 23:05

InfoXchange – which provides a register of disabled children, young people and their carers. It offers empowering information to parents and carers and planning information to professionals and agencies.

Services include a tailored information pack to all members, regular newsletters, website infoxchange.org.uk, information signposting services.

InfoXchange
Freepost
RSEA-BXAB-CRLA
Barnes Heath House
Humphries Close
Leicester
LE5 4LU

the above InfoXchange is also based at Barnes Heath House and does register of disabled children etc.

by Guest 18.12.10 14:46

This is a map of OC presented to Tanner I believe, with the layout of various places.

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I didn't realise the Millennium was where it is as marked on this map.

by Guest 11.01.11 10:21

Whilst tidying up the apartment information ready for the new library, I have noticed a really odd booking for a Burdekin.

There is a room reserved for a Burdekin in QP01 and GP01 for the same week. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Will have a closer look at this later on.

This post also serves as a reminder for me to look into it later.

by Guest 11.01.11 11:40

There seems to be an awful lot and I mean a LOT, of Thomas Cooke guests out there that week for just 2 people, presumably 2 adults.
Would this suggest that there was something going on out there that week like a golf tournament or something else? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

If there is anyone out there who knows of special occasion bookings with Thomas Cooke in the Algarve, please let us know.

by Guest 18.01.11 16:06

I have just been updating the apartment thread in the library, cause silly old me forgot to add the T9 lot and it has just occurred to me that on the OC lists, there is no one else listed in the G5 block, other than the tapas 9?? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Does this mean that they were all located in a private block ??

by Judge Mental 18.01.11 17:39

Thank you very much Stella.

A veritable feast of unknown knowns, who have now become known knowns thanks to all your efforts in retrieving this information.

by Guest 20.01.11 9:09

I've been thinking about this a little bit more.

What do we know about the G5 block?

Mrs Fenn owns and lives in the apartment directly above the McCann's one.

The McCann's G5A, Oldfield G5B and Tanner/ O'Brien G5D, were all on the ground floor.

The Payne's G5H were on the first floor.

Someone released information that G5C was empty. Who did this and why?

There are no other apartments in the entire G5 block on the daily OC guest lists. Mrs Fenn as a resident is not there.

Which can only mean, all of the missing apartment numbers are either lived in, just like Mrs Fenn, or rented out and empty. But if they were empty, why did someone only release information about G5C being empty.

What about the apartments either side of the Payne's?

by **Tony Bennett** 20.01.11 23:43

Stella

Are there any records relating to the staff and where they stayed in Praia da Luz that week? - the creche workers for example.

I once looked up the quizmistress, Najoua Chekaya, and was surprised to see that she lives very close to Dianne Webster, as follows:

Bridget Chekaya
Lilia Chekaya &
Majoua (may be mis-spelt for Najoua) Chekaya. 12 Chaucer Road, Flitwick, Bedford, MK45 1QG.
Dianne Webster 59 Wilden Road, Renhold, Bedford. MK41 0LY.

I wondered if they knew each other before they went on holiday?

Also, is Dianne Webster the wife or ex-wife of a Dr Webster who is an anaesthetist?

And what is Dianne Webster's profession?

by **Tony Bennett** 21.01.11 0:02

STEPHEN CARPENTER

The 'Hertfordshire' family man who spoke to the McCanns on the night Madeleine was reported missing. His children were being minded. David James Smith in 'The Times' (16 Dec 2007) said how grateful Dr Gerald McCann was that he could enjoy his dinner and drinks at the table without 'having to' have his children with him.

Carpenter was also the bloke who backed up Murat's scarcely credible claim not to have known what was happening in Praia da Luz until Carpenter sauntered by that Friday morniing (4 May) and Murat called out something like: 'Hey up, did anything go off last night?' (see Carpenter and Murat statements). To which Murat replied something like: 'Ee by gum, I be bilingual, maybe I could do some translations for the cops' and then hot-footed it up to the Ocean Club.

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by **Tony Bennett** 21.01.11 0:04

Tony Bennett wrote:STEPHEN CARPENTER

The 'Hertfordshire' family man who spoke to the McCanns on the night Madeleine was reported missing. His children were being minded. David James Smith in 'The Times' (16 Dec 2007) said how grateful Dr Gerald McCann was that he could enjoy his dinner and drinks at the table without 'having to' have his children with him.

Carpenter was also the bloke who backed up Murat's scarcely credible claim not to have known what was happening in Praia da Luz until Carpenter sauntered by that Friday morniing (4 May) and Murat called out something like: 'Hey up, did anything go off last night?' (see Carpenter and Murat statements). To which Murat replied something like: 'Ee by gum, I be bilingual, maybe I could do some transaltions for the cops' and then hot-footed it up to the Ocean Club.

Carpenter
D.O.B.
12.
4.
55

Was living in Ware in 2007 and describing himself as a 'technician'.

Now lives at 8 Bragbury Lane, Stevenage.

Now Company Director of Powis Court RTM Ltd of 8 Powis Court, Bushey, Hertfordhsire.

Previously Company Director of Ultra Smart Finance Ltd, 45 High Street, Bushey.

Declared 'vexatious' in a long-running court battle against Stevenage Borough Council 2007-2008 which seems to have begun soon after the praia da Luz holiday. Sent nasty and threatening letters. Full account on internet:

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Father of Isabella Pebbles Carpenter

Carpenter's wife Carolyn Carpenter was nee Bacon. Carolyn Carpenter's Rogatory Statement appears to be missing from the PJ files.

Stephen Carpenter's statement looks evasive?

Stephen Carpenter was a tennis-player in Praia da Luz.

by Guest 21.01.11 9:17

Tony Bennett wrote:Stella

Are there any records relating to the staff and where they stayed in Praia da Luz that week? - the creche workers for example.

I will look into this more closely, but vaguely remember that they did not give exact room numbers only names of blocks. But I will check, now that it is more important. There is also a block on the OC map that does not have any numbers attached to it at all, which might suggest a staff block? This is something that would also be good to include in the dog route map.

by Guest 02.02.11 9:12

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Having looked very closely at this OC map, compared with the OC guest lists, there are two blocks of apartments I am very interested in.

On the left you will see block 5. As we know, this is where G5A, G5B, G5D & G5H are located.

Directly above this block are two other blocks, a white one numbered 2 and a blue one not numbered.

The one marked 2, should in theory be numbered as above something like G2A, but there are no reservations with that kind of reference.
As for the blue block with no numbers at all, could this be the staff accommodation? If so, look how close it is to G5A. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Is anyone planning a trip to Portugal soon?

by Guest 21.02.11 12:42

1st	floor	2nd	floor	3rd	floor	4th	floor

5A	McCann	5G	Mrs Fenn	5K	??	5P	empty ?
5B	Oldfield	5H	Payne	5L	empty ?
5C	empty ?	5i	empty ?	5M	empty ?
5D	Tanner	5J		5N
5E
5F

	the OC cleaner only cleans these apartments
	the cleaner said was occupied
	we know is privately owned
	presumed to be privately owned

I wonder who was in 5K?

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by **HiDeHo** 12.03.11 13:00

Stella wrote:This is a map of OC presented to Tanner I believe, with the layout of various places.

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I didn't realise the Millennium was where it is as marked on this map.

I'm putting togtether a map of the area (this one is only temporary) and would like to add all areas of interest including holiday apartment locations.

Does anyone have a reference map for these or any other points of interest?

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by theolivebranch 12.03.11 19:08

HiDeHo wrote:
Stella wrote:This is a map of OC presented to Tanner I believe, with the layout of various places.

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I didn't realise the Millennium was where it is as marked on this map.

I'm putting togtether a map of the area (this one is only temporary) and would like to add all areas of interest including holiday apartment locations.

Does anyone have a reference map for these or any other points of interest?

Hello HiDeHo, no I have not got a map but there were some super ones on MCF I think they were from Jd'A and was it Granny? forget, anyway there were maps and also satelite views, very good they were.

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by kikoraton 12.03.11 19:14

Hello HdH
AFAIR, apartments "BP.." are in the same block as that marked Reception and Kids' Club. The Naylors were in BP01. I believe each group of apartments with "P" as second letter is named after a different type of Palm tree. BP is thought to be Banana Palm.
ETA: On the plan of the OC, "Palm Bay" is written close to the Reception and Kids' Club building. I expect all the different "palm" apartments are in that block.
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by theolivebranch 12.03.11 21:26

Stella wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:Stella

Are there any records relating to the staff and where they stayed in Praia da Luz that week? - the creche workers for example.

I will look into this more closely, but vaguely remember that they did not give exact room numbers only names of blocks. But I will check, now that it is more important. There is also a block on the OC map that does not have any numbers attached to it at all, which might suggest a staff block? This is something that would also be good to include in the dog route map.

Did I dream this but weren't there some photographs of the Nannies in party mode/pyjama mode? Or was that from another MW complex. Nothing wrong with young gals having a bit of fun, but after seeing/hearing first hand a group of so called Nannies/Reps and their nocturnal shenanigans on a trip to Italy I was astounded that they even managed to get out of bed in the morning.
And before anyone says ah but ah but, these Nannies were vetted with great care, so were the ones I am speaking of.

by **Jill Havern** 12.03.11 21:35

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by theolivebranch 12.03.11 21:54

Thankyou for that Getem. Makes very interesting reading. And why all the comments about it not being the babysitters fault.
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by mootle 27.02.17 15:02

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but does anyone the weekly rates that were paid for these appartments?

It seems odd to me that so many 'professionals' would be staying in what appears to be rather 'basic' (and pretty shoddy, going by some of the images) accommodation.

(To put this into context I have attached a pic of the PDL apartment we rented in 2014. For myself, my wife and 6 month old son it cost £220 for the week)

I reaslise that other facilities were included but I would be interested to know what the approximate rates were. I simply cannot see anyone paying a great deal to stay in such a place.

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