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Those unreliable dogs...
Someone really needs their bumps feeling because the dogs keep popping up doing all sorts of detection, from cancer to bombs.
Here's a new one, checking for diabetes..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-27219363
Here's a new one, checking for diabetes..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-27219363
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more useless dogs
I wonder if Dr Payne might invest in one of these dogs for his urology clinic?
Dogs Incredibly Accurate When Sniffing Out Cancer
May 20, 2014 | by Lisa Winter
Dogs, bees, and fruit flies are some animals that can literally sniff out cancer. It's hoped that by understanding how these animals are able to make these positive identifications, scientists can then develop an “electronic nose” which would provide a fast, noninvasive screening for cancers. A new study presented by lead author Gian Luigi Taverna of the Humanitas Research Hospital in Milan has provided evidence of two dogs able to sniff out prostate cancer with exceptional accuracy. The findings were presented Sunday, May 18th at the Annual Meeting of the American Urological Association in Orlando, Reuters reported.
As early detection is critical for overcoming cancer, it is best to discover anomalies before patients become symptomatic, which isn’t always feasible. Certain diseases, such as pancreatic or ovarian cancer, do not become symptomatic until 5-year survival rates are dangerously low. Processing blood or urine tests are slow and costly, making them a poor choice for a routine screening.
Certain animals have advanced olfactory senses which allow them to smell and identify the volatile organic compounds (VOCs) associated with certain cancers when exposed to breath or urine samples. Animals like dogs can be trained to respond in a certain way to indicate the presence of disease, while some fruit flies have been genetically engineered to glow when they find certain VOCs.
The Italian researchers used two German Shepherds who had previously received training to seek out bombs. After five months of positive reinforcement training, the dogs were tested on 430 urine samples and were tasked with identifying prostate cancer. Of the 430 samples, 200 came from patients with known prostate cancer, and the other 230 served as a control. One dog was able to identify the prostate cancer patients with 100% accuracy and the controls with 98% accuracy. The other dog also did quite well, by identifying disease with 98.6% accuracy and ruled out controls 96.4% of the time. Further study will be needed to verify these findings, such as using different trained dogs and different samples.
While your family doctor probably isn’t likely to put a dog on staff to come around and sniff you during your annual check up, scientists have a lot to learn about how these VOCs are sensed. Dogs have about 40 times as many olfactory cells than humans, leaving us a lot to learn about how these trace odors are perceived. Currently, different laboratories around the world are using animals to help detect bladder, ovarian, breast, lung, and prostate cancer. The end goal of this field of research is to develop a device that blends mass spectrometry and gas chromatography that can analyze laboratory samples quickly and easily.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dogs-incredibly-accurate-when-sniffing-out-cancer
Dogs Incredibly Accurate When Sniffing Out Cancer
May 20, 2014 | by Lisa Winter
Dogs, bees, and fruit flies are some animals that can literally sniff out cancer. It's hoped that by understanding how these animals are able to make these positive identifications, scientists can then develop an “electronic nose” which would provide a fast, noninvasive screening for cancers. A new study presented by lead author Gian Luigi Taverna of the Humanitas Research Hospital in Milan has provided evidence of two dogs able to sniff out prostate cancer with exceptional accuracy. The findings were presented Sunday, May 18th at the Annual Meeting of the American Urological Association in Orlando, Reuters reported.
As early detection is critical for overcoming cancer, it is best to discover anomalies before patients become symptomatic, which isn’t always feasible. Certain diseases, such as pancreatic or ovarian cancer, do not become symptomatic until 5-year survival rates are dangerously low. Processing blood or urine tests are slow and costly, making them a poor choice for a routine screening.
Certain animals have advanced olfactory senses which allow them to smell and identify the volatile organic compounds (VOCs) associated with certain cancers when exposed to breath or urine samples. Animals like dogs can be trained to respond in a certain way to indicate the presence of disease, while some fruit flies have been genetically engineered to glow when they find certain VOCs.
The Italian researchers used two German Shepherds who had previously received training to seek out bombs. After five months of positive reinforcement training, the dogs were tested on 430 urine samples and were tasked with identifying prostate cancer. Of the 430 samples, 200 came from patients with known prostate cancer, and the other 230 served as a control. One dog was able to identify the prostate cancer patients with 100% accuracy and the controls with 98% accuracy. The other dog also did quite well, by identifying disease with 98.6% accuracy and ruled out controls 96.4% of the time. Further study will be needed to verify these findings, such as using different trained dogs and different samples.
While your family doctor probably isn’t likely to put a dog on staff to come around and sniff you during your annual check up, scientists have a lot to learn about how these VOCs are sensed. Dogs have about 40 times as many olfactory cells than humans, leaving us a lot to learn about how these trace odors are perceived. Currently, different laboratories around the world are using animals to help detect bladder, ovarian, breast, lung, and prostate cancer. The end goal of this field of research is to develop a device that blends mass spectrometry and gas chromatography that can analyze laboratory samples quickly and easily.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dogs-incredibly-accurate-when-sniffing-out-cancer
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Michael Graydons body traced by dogs!
http://www.itv.com/news/west/story/2015-03-06/michael-graydons-body-found-in-monaco/
Boxing promoter Michael Graydon's family have told ITV News that Police in Monaco have found his body down a 'deep hole'.
Yesterday sniffer dogs tracked Michael Graydon's scent from La Rascasse nightclub to a church where he was last seen on CCTV nearly two weeks ago.
This morning police and fire crews searched the area and his body was found down a deep hole.
His body was discovered yesterday, after sniffer dogs led search teams to a ravine.
"It is with sadness that we can confirm that Michael our brother, friend, cousin, son, uncle and Dad has been found in a deep ravine, in Monaco in the area where he was last seen.
The sniffer dog that traced his last steps on Thursday 5 March, led the investigators to the hole. This prompted the Fire Brigade to extend their search that was carried out on Friday 6 March."
Boxing promoter Michael Graydon's family have told ITV News that Police in Monaco have found his body down a 'deep hole'.
Yesterday sniffer dogs tracked Michael Graydon's scent from La Rascasse nightclub to a church where he was last seen on CCTV nearly two weeks ago.
This morning police and fire crews searched the area and his body was found down a deep hole.
His body was discovered yesterday, after sniffer dogs led search teams to a ravine.
"It is with sadness that we can confirm that Michael our brother, friend, cousin, son, uncle and Dad has been found in a deep ravine, in Monaco in the area where he was last seen.
The sniffer dog that traced his last steps on Thursday 5 March, led the investigators to the hole. This prompted the Fire Brigade to extend their search that was carried out on Friday 6 March."
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Re: Those unreliable dogs...
They are so close to infallible that to argue anything other would need serious amounts of evidence.
The false positives they 'appear' to give are usually because human detection systems and man-made machines are not sufficiently sensitive to confirm the dog's alert.
There is no question that the dogs alerted to blood and human cadaverine in Apartment 5A
and on other items associated with the McCanns
AND TO NO OTHER places or items.
The false positives they 'appear' to give are usually because human detection systems and man-made machines are not sufficiently sensitive to confirm the dog's alert.
There is no question that the dogs alerted to blood and human cadaverine in Apartment 5A
and on other items associated with the McCanns
AND TO NO OTHER places or items.
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I wonder how differently events may have unfolded if the dogs were brought in on 3/05/07. I also wonder if the tracker dogs picked up on cadaverine but was ignored because the focus was on finding a live Madeleine.
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Frankie the dog 'sniffs out thyroid cancer'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31785245
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31785245
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Totally unreliable. Obviously
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2988685/The-dog-sniffs-thyroid-cancer-Frankie-German-Shepard-detects-disease-88-cent-accuracy.html
The dog that can sniff out thyroid cancer: Frankie the German Shepherd detects the disease ‘with 88 per cent accuracy’
Frankie was trained to lie down after smelling thyroid cancer in urine
Dogs have a sense of smell that is 10 times better than that of humans
On 34 patients, Frankie gave 2 false positives and 2 incorrect 'all-clears'
Scientists don't yet know what dogs can smell when they detect cancer
Finding out could help create an 'electronic nose' to diagnose disease
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PeterMac wrote:They are so close to infallible that to argue anything other would need serious amounts of evidence.
The false positives they 'appear' to give are usually because human detection systems and man-made machines are not sufficiently sensitive to confirm the dog's alert.
There is no question that the dogs alerted to blood and human cadaverine in Apartment 5A
and on other items associated with the McCanns
AND TO NO OTHER places or items.
Dogs are impersonal and not capable of lying. They just do what they are trained to do and have an exemplary records to prove they got it right all the time.
Yet, in this case, Gerry expects the world to believe his words that "dogs are notoriously unreliable". Why did he not advocate for Police to stop using dogs in investigation operations since he did not believe in the value of dogs, like he advocates to curtail free speech?
Dogs are Police and Immigration Authority invaluable working partner (or tool). Invariably they are used all the time to search for missing person/body or used in different contexts and situations for drugs detection, counterfiet goods detection and remains detection.
There is no indication that Police would want to make this operating method redundant so I would be surprised if Police do not give the dogs credence in the Mccanns case. They must know what happened to Madeleine....at the very least they know she is died....
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Another fool using dogs .. . !
http://florida.newszap.com/okeechobeenorthlake/139161-113/cadaver-dogs-to-search-boys-school-property-in-okeechobee?printerfriendly=true
In other words they will believe whatever the dogs indicate
Cadaver dogs to search ‘boys school’ property in Okeechobee
By Eric Kopp
Okeechobee News
Last Modified: Apr 1, 2015 12:00PM
OKEECHOBEE — In hopes he can put an end to the rumors, a local detective has enlisted the help of five cadaver K-9s to search 21 acres on the grounds of the old Okeechobee School for Boys on U.S. 441 N.
The school is currently operated by G4S Facilities Management and is known as the Okeechobee Youth Development Center and Intensive Halfway House. It was operated by the state until 1982 when the Eckerd Foundation took it over and renamed it the Eckerd Youth Development Center (EYDC).
In those early days the state not only had the reform school in Okeechobee, but also the Florida School for Boys in Marianna.
In recent years many men, who were sent to those institutions have come forward to detail the beatings and sexual molestations that were perpetuated by adult men who worked at the schools.
And, after bodies were unearthed at the Marianna school, which is also known as the Dozier School for Boys, Detective Captain John Rhoden, of the Okeechobee County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO), decided it’s time to search the local facility.
Capt. Rhoden said the cadaver dogs will be brought to Okeechobee and will search the grounds April 14, 15 and 16. It is his hope to either dispel stories about boys who were killed and buried on the school’s grounds, or find those bodies and give their families some closure.
While there was no infamous White House at the Okeechobee school, there were two rooms — the library and the adjustment room — where boys were sodomized or beaten with a strap.
One local man recounted being beaten by a strap made out of a tire that was 4- to 5-inches wide, 2- to 3-feet long and had silver dollars embedded in it. That man, now deceased, detailed the beating in a 2009 interview. He said he had no idea how many times the strap lashed across his buttocks, his back and the back of his legs as he laid on an iron bed.
“I wasn’t counting. All I wanted was for him to stop,” said the then-61-year-old man with his head bowed and tears dripping from his eyes.
Many men have come forward in recent years to tell their horrible stories of physical and sexual abuse that went on in the 1940s, ’50s and early ’60s at the two schools.
Many of those men at Marianna are now known as the White House Boys. They were the ones taken to the White House and beaten until they bled and their clothing became embedded in the cuts. As those boys laid on an iron bed and braced themselves for the beating to start, they would have to listen to the men as they made bets on who would be the first to draw blood.
Capt. Rhoden, who began his investigation in May of last year, recently toured the Marianna school and the White House.
The veteran law enforcement officer with over 30 years of service has seen nearly everything imaginable. But there was nothing to compare to walking into the White House.
“It was an eerie feeling. That building is different than any other building up there. That building is cold. It’s cold,” he said, as his voice trailed off.
He said a couple of the dogs to be used locally were also used in Marianna.
While the stories about boys being beaten to death or shot still swirl, Capt. Rhoden said it’s time to find the bodies or quell the stories.
In short, he said, the search “... is to bring an end to everything.”
In other words they will believe whatever the dogs indicate
Re: Those unreliable dogs...
The French Gendarmerie are even taking dogs up to the aircrash site in the Alps to help in the search...why would they bother ? They're so unreliable, aren't they ??? (Not).
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Re: Those unreliable dogs...
A dog can be trained to sniff just about anything. Why would any parent of a missing child ignore the findings of a sniffer dog?
It would be a crushing blow to find that cadaver scent was found in the apartment where your child went missing. It would be enough to send a parent off their head. Not the McCanns, they continued to say Madeleine is alive and findable.
The dogs in question were sent care of UK. The dogs and their handler had an outstanding track record. The dogs did not come from a 'bungling' Portuguese investigation trying to fit up the McCanns as the media and 'sources' would have you believe.
Dogs didn't lie.
It would be a crushing blow to find that cadaver scent was found in the apartment where your child went missing. It would be enough to send a parent off their head. Not the McCanns, they continued to say Madeleine is alive and findable.
The dogs in question were sent care of UK. The dogs and their handler had an outstanding track record. The dogs did not come from a 'bungling' Portuguese investigation trying to fit up the McCanns as the media and 'sources' would have you believe.
Dogs didn't lie.
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Yet another unreliable one
Can't even trust a dog to shoot your boyfriend !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/girlfriend-charged-with-murder-after-claiming-dog-shot-boyfriend-10156810.html
And she wanted the police to believe her !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/girlfriend-charged-with-murder-after-claiming-dog-shot-boyfriend-10156810.html
Girlfriend charged with murder after claiming dog shot boyfriend
Tyaina Finch told police gun went off after she spotted it in dog’s mouth – but later changed her story
JAMES DUNN Sunday 05 April 2015
A woman who told police that her dog shot her off-duty officer boyfriend has been charged with his murder.
Tyaina Finch, 27, originally told police that the gun had gone off accidentally as she tried to wrestle it from her dog’s mouth.
Her partner, Mark Hudson, 26, was killed in the incident in his own home in Philadelphia.
Authorities say that he was trying to break up with Tyaina at the time, reports local news channel 6ABC.
She later changed her story, claiming that she’d used the gun against him in self-defence.
Hudson, who had worked as a police officer for four years, was pronounced dead at the scene.
Yesterday, around 1,000 people turned out to pay respects for the officer, who had served his Darby Borough community since joining the fire service aged 16, before signing up to the force.
She was also charged with aggravated assault after allegedly threatening boyfriend Mark Hudson with a knife last summer.
District Attorney Jack Whelan described the couple's relationship as 'tumultuous' and Finch's statements to police as 'inconsistent', reports The Mirror.
He said: 'We believe she acted on this particular day with specific intent to kill.'
And she wanted the police to believe her !
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Aggravated assault seems a mild charge if indeed she had the intend to kill.PeterMac wrote:Can't even trust a dog to shoot your boyfriend !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/girlfriend-charged-with-murder-after-claiming-dog-shot-boyfriend-10156810.htmlGirlfriend charged with murder after claiming dog shot boyfriend
Tyaina Finch told police gun went off after she spotted it in dog’s mouth – but later changed her story
JAMES DUNN Sunday 05 April 2015
A woman who told police that her dog shot her off-duty officer boyfriend has been charged with his murder.
Tyaina Finch, 27, originally told police that the gun had gone off accidentally as she tried to wrestle it from her dog’s mouth.
Her partner, Mark Hudson, 26, was killed in the incident in his own home in Philadelphia.
Authorities say that he was trying to break up with Tyaina at the time, reports local news channel 6ABC.
She later changed her story, claiming that she’d used the gun against him in self-defence.
Hudson, who had worked as a police officer for four years, was pronounced dead at the scene.
Yesterday, around 1,000 people turned out to pay respects for the officer, who had served his Darby Borough community since joining the fire service aged 16, before signing up to the force.
She was also charged with aggravated assault after allegedly threatening boyfriend Mark Hudson with a knife last summer.
District Attorney Jack Whelan described the couple's relationship as 'tumultuous' and Finch's statements to police as 'inconsistent', reports The Mirror.
He said: 'We believe she acted on this particular day with specific intent to kill.'
And she wanted the police to believe her !
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Another form of cancer
and again the dogs win!
http://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2015/04/10/dog-cancer-detection-98-reliable/
http://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2015/04/10/dog-cancer-detection-98-reliable/
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3033906/How-DOGS-help-diagnose-prostate-cancer-Canines-SNIFF-disease-98-accuracy.html
And they didn't 'whoosh this this.
How DOGS can help diagnose prostate cancer: Canines SNIFF out disease with 98% accuracy
Study in Milan found two dogs identified 98% of prostate cancer cases
They examined urine samples of 900 men - 360 who had cancer
Medical Detection Dogs charity hailed the study as 'spectacular'
By LIZZIE PARRY FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 23:10 GMT, 10 April 2015 | UPDATED: 23:17 GMT, 10 April 2015
Dogs can sniff out prostate cancer with 98 per cent reliability, a new study has shown.
The research, carried out in Milan, backs up tests carried out by the charity Medical Detection Dogs.
Its co-founder Dr Claire Guest said the charity's research found a 93 per cent reliability rate when detecting both prostate and bladder cancer.
She hailed the new study, describing the findings as 'spectacular'.
And they didn't 'whoosh this this.
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According to one doctor in Leicester dogs are "notoriously unreliable". The rest of the world knows that they are the most loving and reliable friends we could wish for. All they ask is to be treated properly and with respect. They can detect melanomas, kidney cancers, predict diabetic incidents, find people buried in rubble, find bombs, drugs, explosives . . there is a huge list of their incredible achievements.
NEPAL
Aid, search and rescue Agencies from across the world are sending help
They are also sending DOGS
Gerry, Kate, Mitchell, if you or any of your depraved extended family or your vile and mentally disturbed supporters are reading this . . .
Your sneering comment about search dogs being "Notoriously unreliable" is the single most disgusting, revolting, repellent, repulsive, sickening, nauseating, stomach-churning, distasteful, foul, nasty, abhorrent, loathsome, offensive, appalling, outrageous, objectionable, shocking, horrifying, scandalous, monstrous, unspeakable, shameful, vile, odious, obnoxious, detestable, hateful, sickening, contemptible, despicable, deplorable, abominable, gross, ghastly, and sick thing you have said in this case.
And given the other things you have said, that is saying something.
(I have, for legal reasons, toned down these remarks to conceal what I really think . . .)
They are also sending DOGS
Gerry, Kate, Mitchell, if you or any of your depraved extended family or your vile and mentally disturbed supporters are reading this . . .
Your sneering comment about search dogs being "Notoriously unreliable" is the single most disgusting, revolting, repellent, repulsive, sickening, nauseating, stomach-churning, distasteful, foul, nasty, abhorrent, loathsome, offensive, appalling, outrageous, objectionable, shocking, horrifying, scandalous, monstrous, unspeakable, shameful, vile, odious, obnoxious, detestable, hateful, sickening, contemptible, despicable, deplorable, abominable, gross, ghastly, and sick thing you have said in this case.
And given the other things you have said, that is saying something.
(I have, for legal reasons, toned down these remarks to conceal what I really think . . .)
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PeterMac wrote:Aid, search and rescue Agencies from across the world are sending help
They are also sending DOGS
Gerry, Kate, Mitchell, if you or any of your depraved extended family or your vile and mentally disturbed supporters are reading this . . .
Your sneering comment about search dogs being "Notoriously unreliable" is the single most disgusting, revolting, repellent, repulsive, sickening, nauseating, stomach-churning, distasteful, foul, nasty, abhorrent, loathsome, offensive, appalling, outrageous, objectionable, shocking, horrifying, scandalous, monstrous, unspeakable, shameful, vile, odious, obnoxious, detestable, hateful, sickening, contemptible, despicable, deplorable, abominable, gross, ghastly, and sick thing you have said in this case.
And given the other things you have said, that is saying something.
(I have, for legal reasons, toned down these remarks to conceal what I really think . . .)
Seconded.
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British dogs have just left for Nepal.
2 million people are unaccounted for.
The official death and injury stats seem only to cover those bits of Katmandhu which have so far been searched.
Some of the mountain villages seem to have been almost totally destroyed.
And there were 1,000 or so on Everest. Everything above Base camp is now cut off, as the ice fall has collapsed.
So, Gerry, or anyone else from that disfunction family reading this - Philomena ? - why would the world devote logistics to taking "Notoriously unreliable" dogs all the way out there ?
Answers via your socks and shills on Twitter, or through Mendacious Mitchell
UPDATE: 1540 Hrs
of the 800 known climbers and sherpas 150 have been brought down by helicopter. The rest - NOT (yet)
2 million people are unaccounted for.
The official death and injury stats seem only to cover those bits of Katmandhu which have so far been searched.
Some of the mountain villages seem to have been almost totally destroyed.
And there were 1,000 or so on Everest. Everything above Base camp is now cut off, as the ice fall has collapsed.
So, Gerry, or anyone else from that disfunction family reading this - Philomena ? - why would the world devote logistics to taking "Notoriously unreliable" dogs all the way out there ?
Answers via your socks and shills on Twitter, or through Mendacious Mitchell
UPDATE: 1540 Hrs
of the 800 known climbers and sherpas 150 have been brought down by helicopter. The rest - NOT (yet)
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And yes, I do have a special interest. The hotel sponsors two children.
See
http://www.helpingnepalschildren.org/
See
http://www.helpingnepalschildren.org/
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But when we compare this with the other things they said - Entered through the front door, using his keyaquila wrote:. . . they continued to say Madeleine is alive and findable.
Curtains wide open
we can reasonably translate that piece of McSpeak "alive and findable" into the exact opposite.
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Dogs are best. They care not one jot about what the players have to say about them.
Entered through front door, using his key, exit through unlocked back door
Curtains wide open
Shutter up
All this craps the Mcs can repeat until the cows come home...
The dogs couldn't care less
They only have to sniff here and there, and then VIOLA stick their noses up in air at Mc-smelly for they know stink when they smell one.
The Mcsmelly can bad mouth them but they can't hide.
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Another story about Dogs:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-32656599
Unreliable hey, Gerry? If it was a contest between dogs like this, or yourself, I know who I would back, and it wouldn't be you.
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Re: Those unreliable dogs...
Dogs also featured in the tragic Soham case and in the case of Tia Sharpe.
Take a look at the dogs findings in these cases. Some things just don't add up.
And dogs don't lie, unlike people.
Something is just not right about these cases. What the heck is going on?
http://www.justjustice.org/index.html
http://www.justjustice.org/anniversary.html
Take a look at the dogs findings in these cases. Some things just don't add up.
And dogs don't lie, unlike people.
Something is just not right about these cases. What the heck is going on?
http://www.justjustice.org/index.html
http://www.justjustice.org/anniversary.html
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