Re: Former Ullapool teacher struck off for indecent images

by canada12 14.11.13 11:13

ProfessorPPlum
As I pointed out last night, it isn't rotated 90 degrees. That's a conclusion we've jumped to because we need to fit what we see into what we expect. There's rather a lot of it about in this whole case (I'm not being sh*tty btw, it's very human - but any good investigator will anticipate this tendency).
Now, like everyone here, I have a real life and day job to do but as soon as I can, I'll demonstrate exactly what I mean.

Put simply, the apparently vertical line in his left lens is just a reflection of the pool edge as it goes away from GM before it comes round to a horizontal line on the opposite side of the pool. At this point it appears, due to foreshortening, to be perpendicular to him (whereas in fact it is still as gently curved as any other part of the pool). But the result is that we will see water to one side, pool deck to the other and what appears to be a vertical line dividing the two.

The fact that we're expecting horizontal is the problem here as I hope to demonstrate in due course.

If I do demonstrate this effect (nothing to do with polarisation etc), I wonder if it will make ANY difference to this discussion though.

With respect, PPP, if you increase the picture to 200% and rotate it 90 degrees to the left, you do indeed see a full reflection. What I see, top to bottom, is the dark green area behind the pool, the beige pool deck, a dark shadow on the pool deck, the edge of the pool deck, which is interrupted by the brim of a pink hat, followed by the pool water. That's in the top lens.

In the bottom lens, we have pool water.

It's interesting that all of the straight lines in the top lens reflection are just that. Straight horizontal lines. If there was any curvature at all of anything, would you not expect the horizontal lines to reflect curvature?

As to why someone would replace a reflection in the sunglasses, I've mentioned this before. Because the original reflection in the sunglasses showed something that was inconsistent with the story that was being told around the picture.

Sorry for banging on about this. I'll stop now, before I get this thread locked too. All just my opinion, and in the big picture (sorry about the pun) that's all this is really about. I'm fairly certain the PJ and SY have had their forensic investigators look at this "last photo" and if it has any bearing on the case, they'll have made note of it.

by canada12 14.11.13 11:19

ProfessorPPlum wrote:
Canada - the plate is too small to reproduce what happened here - but I cited it as a way of pointing out that part of the edge goes away from you a two points (left and right edge). The plate's too small and too close to replicate the situation (above) - but I appreciate you trying!

You can rest assured that I'm looking for a pair of used mirror shades and a suitable circular monument to practice on

Appreciate your diagrams and explanations... I await your discovery of mirrored shades and a suitable circular swimming pool to illustrate. :-)

by canada12 14.11.13 11:22

I always get the feeling, whenever the discussion of photoshopping in the pictures becomes passionate, that the discussions are being used, somehow, to test out how the arguments would play in front of a judge and / or jury :-) Just an observation.

by SittingOnTheFence 14.11.13 12:05

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I think that people are making incorrect assumptions regarding the pink hat being the object that is being reflected on the sunglasses; just because the two are pink doesn't mean that they are one and the same. It could be a pink ball, towel etc. The reflection would be a combination of the trajectory angle of the position of the glasses plus the position / angle of the camera, the curvature of the sunglass lens etc - ie it is reflecting what is ahead of Gerry (where he is looking) as opposed to the side of him.

Various photos of reflections on sunglasses - some photoshopped for artistic effect, but most are normal photos. There are quite a few that reflect at 90 degree angles. That said, I think PPP is right in that the reflection is showing the curvature of the pool.

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by canada12 14.11.13 12:26

There's a really good analysis of the sunglasses (with illustrations) here:
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by Snifferdog 14.11.13 14:08

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:Just had a freaky moment looking at that picture of the pool, the overhead view
I will tell you what it looks like to me, but it is in no way a derailment....I just had a wave through me when I spotted it.....Its nothing, just peculiar
Ok I will say it.....If you turn the picture around so that Gerry is at the bottom of your screen....Look at the path...It immediately hit me as Madeleines Coloboma. Freaked me out a bit.....Thats all, sorry.
I swear this case is a pathway to some kind of parallel dimension.

I agree Chillyheat. It surely looks EXACTLY like the Look for Me logo! Very peculiar indeed!
I did a sketch of the strange looking photo of Madeleines make up photo where her ears look very strangely situated. It is because of incorrect perspective IMO so I did a sketch correction the perspective as I think it should look. I was unable to upload it (for some reason I have trouble uploading photos with this laptop), so I have instead used it as an avatar. I doubt whether a camera pic could have produced such distortion.

by Perky 14.11.13 15:09

On the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] analysis, other than some goo work, it also seems to suggest that the only angle the piture oul have been taken from is from almost irretly aross the pool, not at an angle, yet the pool borer (higher left than right aroun the people’s boies) seems to suggest a piture more in line with PPP’s suggestion in this threa, i.e. utting a tangent setion of the pool rather than a iameter.

If this piture is important, e.g. beause it was taken at a ifferent time or has been manipulate or has superimpositions, I think that further analysis (well worth pursuing) oul well reveal onlusive points, ,e.g. if the hanging branhes are shown to be longer/shorter than in other pis, marks on lothes or other objets, bush shapes or grass length et. ouple with some other ifferenes or anomalies, then the ombination oul prove eisive or onlusive. It oul possibly nee as many other pitures as possible from around the pool from other people too with times an ates both from th tim, from when the Mann's took any previous holiay there an from now.

Timlapse vieo woul be goo, but it’s out of season now, though woul still be helpful, as woul a piture taken in similar positions at same loation, using volunteers on holiay, e.g. for shaows an loating photographer position.

Sorry about my an ! Won’t post again without opy/pasting missing letters or something.

by chillyheat 14.11.13 16:15

Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
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I reckon he met Phil on the internet....

by **PeterMac** 14.11.13 17:52

ChillyHeat wrote:Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
I reckon he met Phil on the internet....

Searching for what, I wonder !

by sallypelt 14.11.13 18:09

I don't know if this has been discussed or posted, but this is info on Rickwood. He works as a farm technician/Health observer at Finfish Limited.

Notice who views Rickwood's profile.

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by chillyheat 14.11.13 18:18

PeterMac wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
I reckon he met Phil on the internet....
Searching for what, I wonder !

If Im correct, he lived in Maidstone Kent so I cant see any other way of them meeting, IMO. I have a house sell then all traces put him in Ullapool after. Ive done a good search of Magistrates courts in Kent big grin

just in case.....nothing

by Smokeandmirrors 14.11.13 18:24

PeterMac wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
I reckon he met Phil on the internet....
Searching for what, I wonder !

Don't even go there! That's probably a whole other fetish.

by Guest 14.11.13 19:20

sallypelt wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed or posted, but this is info on Rickwood. He works as a farm technician/Health observer at Finfish Limited.

Notice who views Rickwood's profile.

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Good old uncle John ...

by Guest 14.11.13 19:22

Smokeandmirrors wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
I reckon he met Phil on the internet....
Searching for what, I wonder !
Don't even go there! That's probably a whole other fetish.

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True. Sometimes Peter puts us where we maybe don't want to go ... big grin

by TheTruthWillOut 14.11.13 19:27

sallypelt wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed or posted, but this is info on Rickwood. He works as a farm technician/Health observer at Finfish Limited.

Notice who views Rickwood's profile.

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I think that means the people that viewed TR's profile went on to view JM's profile, not that JM has viewed TM's himself?

by Nereid 14.11.13 19:51

ChillyHeat wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:Not sure if already mentioned.....Rickwood was from Kent. Here is a pic of him in 1976
I reckon he met Phil on the internet....
Searching for what, I wonder !
If Im correct, he lived in Maidstone Kent so I cant see any other way of them meeting, IMO. I have a house sell then all traces put him in Ullapool after. Ive done a good search of Magistrates courts in Kent just in case.....nothing

Searching for Northern Lights,

Quicksand, bogs and Turkish delights,

Twas at Ullapool Marina,

That he saw Philomena,

Not one of the prettiest sights.

I'll get my coat.........

by Lance De Boils 14.11.13 20:53

TheTruthWillOut wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed or posted, but this is info on Rickwood. He works as a farm technician/Health observer at Finfish Limited.

Notice who views Rickwood's profile.

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I think that means the people that viewed TR's profile went on to view JM's profile, not that JM has viewed TM's himself?

Correct.

by **Tony Bennett** 14.11.13 21:43

Nereid wrote:
Searching for Northern Lights,

Quicksand, bogs and Turkish delights,

Twas at Ullapool Marina,

That he saw Philomena,

Not one of the prettiest sights.

Nereid, I have to concede that that is a very well constructed limerick.

However, as Jill and Admin will confirm, I am the resident limericist here, and there is no vacancy.

A new History teacher was planned
But very soon Ingram was banned
Then the Soc Studies Head
To Rickwood was wed -
He dreamt of women in quicksand.

by Daisy 14.11.13 22:09

Nereid wrote:
Searching for Northern Lights,

Quicksand, bogs and Turkish delights,

Twas at Ullapool Marina,

That he saw Philomena,

Not one of the prettiest sights.

I'll get my coat.........

Don't be getting your coat, that was funny titter

by Guest 14.11.13 22:38

Trying to get back to the originals of limerick rhymes:

There once was a man in Ullapool
who deviant played yet was cool
then along came Peter and Tony
who unmasked him as a phony
a creep and a fake and a fool

Have mercy on a foreigner ... big grin

by ProfessorPPlum 15.11.13 2:12

There once was a lawyer named Ruck

I think I'll stop there sarcastic

by bristow 15.11.13 8:29

ProfessorPPlum wrote:There once was a lawyer named Ruck

Who knew how to make a fast buck,
but a couple of clients with arrogant defiance,
caused Ruck to become a right schmuck.

by Guest 15.11.13 12:20

ProfessorPPlum wrote:There once was a lawyer named Ruck

I think I'll stop there

There once was a couple from Glasgow
Who had a young daughter we all know
This child ran amuck
All their plans came unstuck
And we're waiting for Hell to break loose now

by Guest 15.11.13 17:33

Portia wrote:
There once was a couple from Glasgow
Who had a young daughter we all know
This child ran amuck
All their plans came unstuck
And we're waiting for Hell to break loose now

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A proper 5-line limerick with rhyme in the right place. Brava!

by Guest 15.11.13 18:54

Châtelaine wrote:
Portia wrote:
There once was a couple from Glasgow
Who had a young daughter we all know
This child ran amuck
All their plans came unstuck
And we're waiting for Hell to break loose now
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A proper 5-line limerick with rhyme in the right place. Brava!