Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

by Guest 20.11.11 17:58

Updated message from the Prout website.

http://caseblog.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/justice4adrian/

The site organisers are I feel to be praised for their acceptance of the situation.

by **PeterMac** 20.11.11 22:04

Marian wrote:Updated message from the Prout website.
http://caseblog.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/justice4adrian/
The site organisers are I feel to be praised for their acceptance of the situation.

I am not sure that 'praise' for accepting overwhelming evidence of a full and frank confession and assistance in finding the body - is quite the correct term to use.
Also, interestingly, you can still find the last few pages of the blog where people send him all their love and hopes that he will be out soon. I accessed it 10 minutes ago, so it can be done. (Sunday 20/11 - 10pm)
I do hope they are feeling really stupid.

A lesson for all I think. "Stick with the evidence, watch the family, and follow the money"

by aiyoyo 21.11.11 4:25

In a direct plea, he continued: "If you have done something you regret, if you find yourself in a situation you never intended, it is not too late to do the right thing."

Yeah, the abductor never intended anything when he trespassed the apartment? It's more like gerry subconscious talking.

by aiyoyo 21.11.11 4:37

PeterMac wrote:
Marian wrote:Updated message from the Prout website.
http://caseblog.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/justice4adrian/
The site organisers are I feel to be praised for their acceptance of the situation.
I am not sure that 'praise' for accepting overwhelming evidence of a full and frank confession and assistance in finding the body - is quite the correct term to use.
Also, interestingly, you can still find the last few pages of the blog where people send him all their love and hopes that he will be out soon. I accessed it 10 minutes ago, so it can be done. (Sunday 20/11 - 10pm)
I do hope they are feeling really stupid.

A lesson for all I think. "Stick with the evidence, watch the family, and follow the money"

Problem is the public is CONFUSED with the evidence. The papers were running the evidence only for the mccanns to sue and papers to settle so people are getting conflicting message. But fear not, look at Jeff Archer and Jonathan Aitken cases, its a pattern criminal take - first they lied /denied then they sued the papers and look what happened - eventually they end up in jail.

If it comes to that for the mccanns papers will run killer headlines and flying off the shelves like hot cakes like no other cases in history. Like everything to do with the mccanns it will be unprecedented high level of lynching of the evil pair who continue their charade to this day. Just look at the Leveson Inquiry, what the hell are they doing as core participants, when the inquiry is about 'hacking' and according to pinky they were left untouched, yet they made them CPs to rant and rile against the papers who had compensated them adequately and in the NOTW's case even apologised for the 'mental rape' of kate.

by Guest 24.11.11 15:29

24 November 2011 Last updated at 15:12

Human remains found in Kate Prout body search

Human remains have been discovered by forensic teams searching for Kate Prout, who was murdered by her husband.

On Friday, Adrian Prout took police to Redhill Farm at Redmarley in Gloucestershire, to show them where he had buried his wife's body.

He was jailed for life for her murder in February 2010 after a trial. Police said he had now admitted killing her.

Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.

Det Supt Simon Atkinson, of Gloucestershire Police, said the remains had not been formally identified, but Mrs Prout's family had been told.

'Harrowing events'

He said the remains would be moved on Friday.

"At one o'clock this afternoon we have found human remains close to the location Adrian Prout identified as the place he buried his wife," Det Supt Atkinson said.

"I do hope that this will be the final chapter of these harrowing events for Kate's family."

Former teacher Mrs Prout disappeared on 5 November 2007, the day after she asked her husband for an £800,000 divorce settlement.

Prout, who owned a pipe-laying business and commercial pheasant shoot, had said he would need to sell £1.2m Redhill Farm to pay the settlement.

Instead, he offered her £600,000 plus maintenance.

Prout reported his wife missing on 10 November that year.

A year ago, Mrs Prout's brother, Richard Wakefield, made a plea to her killer to reveal the location of her body.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15872126

by aiyoyo 24.11.11 15:34

Was it confirmed that the dog identified the spot?

by Guest 24.11.11 16:04

candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.

What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout - Page 2 50899

by Guest 24.11.11 16:20

this from the bbc article just posted.....

[quote]
Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.

This on Sky...

[quote]
Dogs trained to detect decomposed bodies have been at the scene along with a body decomposition expert who was flown in by helicopter on Wednesday.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16117076

These were the dogs that were dissed by this report below on Sky a while ago. Strange how the police keep using them isn't it. thinking

Sniffer Dogs 'Can Hinder Police Work'

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15959107

by Guest 24.11.11 16:35

That's right Candyfloss.

When they need results, they know exactly who to turn to when the pressure is on. Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout - Page 2 670379

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by aiyoyo 24.11.11 17:17

Stella wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.

What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie

Stella

Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.

It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.

What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.

by Guest 25.11.11 8:58

aiyoyo wrote:Stella

Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.

It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.

What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.

I think they will hide the identity of all cadaver dogs in future, to prevent people likes of us from weighing up the importance of any findings. Then that way they can blame the rubbish dogs when they 'really' need to and praise the good dogs when it suits them.

As for Martin Grime, I did hear he had retired from South Yorkshire Police and went independent. I remember reading he was in America shortly after that, but I know for a fact that the Americans on some sort of 2 year rotation, use British dog trainers, who then come back home. I have met a bomb disposal dog trainer who helped me out with my dog. So Martin Grime might be back in the UK by now.

by Mumbles 25.11.11 9:30

aiyoyo wrote:
Stella wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.

What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie

Stella

Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.

It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.

What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.

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Just popping in to confirm that fact for you...
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by **PeterMac** 11.05.15 8:39

http://m.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Cadaver-dog-sniffed-death-Prout-home/story-11860269-detail/story.html

04.03.11
By This is Gloucestershire

EVIDENCE of a dead body inside murdered Kate Prout's home was discovered by a sniffer dog, it has emerged.

The "cadaver dog" homed in on an area in the living room of the Redmarley home she shared with her husband Adrian Prout, who was convicted of her killing last year.

An hour-long documentary on the murder case told how the dog, which was specially trained to seek out dead bodies and where deaths occurred, concentrated on a specific spot in the living room at Redhill Farm.
And for the first time another of Kate Prout's brothers, Ted Wakefield, spoke about the case.
Appearing on the Crime and Investigation network's The Perfect Murder?, he said he told his then-friend Prout that if he had done "something silly" he would "spend the rest of his life in jail, or always looking over his shoulder".

Prout was convicted in January 2010 of killing Kate amid an acrimonious divorce battle on Bonfire Night 2007. She wanted £800,000 from the sale of £1.2 million Redhill Farm but to keep it, Prout offered her £600,000. On November 5 she vanished, without taking clothes, money, valuables or her car. Prout reported her missing five days later, after another of her brothers, Richard Wakefield and her former partner David Edge persuaded him to contact police.
After a massive search of the farm and surrounding countryside Gloucestershire Constabulary found no evidence of Kate, 55, inside or outside the property.
There were no traces of blood, or signs of a struggle, but the cadaver dog indicated to police that a dead body had been in the living room.
Gloucestershire Constabulary drew together a mass of circumstantial evidence that pointed to Prout having strangled his wife with his bare hands and burying her body.
A jury of 11 men and women found him guilty by a majority of 10 to one and he was sentenced to life in prison. He must serve a minimum of 18 years.
His family continues to protest his innocence but her family has pleaded with Prout to reveal where his wife is so they can give her a decent burial.
The programme, part of the channel's Nightmare in Suburbia series, also featured Detective Chief Inspector Neil Kelly who led the investigation, Kate's brother Richard Wakefield and his wife Linda.
"I thought it was quite a good programme in how it put the case over," said Richard Wakefield, who lives in Far Oakridge, near Stroud.
"It was just the truth. At least everybody can see what really happened."

POINT TO NOTE:
When it is said that a dog's alert needs "forensic' evidence to back it up, that does NOT mean scientific evidence of blood DNA, etc
It means forensic in the sense of 'to be placed before the Court = forum" ( from the Latin)

Here is is clear that nothing else was found. There were No traces of blood, nor of a fight.
Nevertheless he was convicted.

The family continued to protest his innocence - as they do, having no chance to look dispassionately at the evidence, and being blinded by their natural love
BUT THEN

Oh, bu***** !

'I confess, I’ll show you where I buried my wife': After 4 years, millionaire killer leads police to woodland grave
Adrian Prout convicted of murdering wife despite no corpse
Police: 'He has agreed to visit the farm to point out the exact location'
Originally claimed wife Kate had gone missing after a series of rows
Diggers and specialist search teams arrive at his former home this morning
He is believed to have confessed to the murder to his fiancée on Wednesday who then told detectives the following day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062923/Kate-Prout-murder-Husband-Adrian-confesses-shows-police-Red-Hill-Farm-grave.html#ixzz3ZoUmUaqI