Another look at the Last photo

PeterMac wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:
He might.  
If he'd been seen with a blue bag miles away from the pool at the time he said he was at the pool.
The last photo could well be put out as alibi for Gerry as much as for Madeleine, and Kate too in a sense since she was the photographer.

It is always possible that the last photo, being a family photo, with no one else around and no one witnessed them at the pool, is perfect one for them to use for more than the purpose of proving Madeleine was alive and well at that time.  

I am curious whether the pool faces the restaurant or another resort facility that is always manned at the that time of the day? Just thinking if resort staff had seen them at the pool or if police are interviewing resort workers for this reason.  General workers like gardener, pool cleaner, sweeper and bin clearing worker, laundry staff, chambermaids moving around in between pool to apt units, or generally other resort workers whose routine get them in vicinity of the pool could well be people OG are interested to interview.  

7 people to re-interview is hell of a lot and can't be about one abductor.

That is an interesting point, but at 7 years on I think it unlikely that the staff would remember the weather conditions for a particular day, unless there were some sort of diary and daily work sheet.
They would be being asked to remember a Negative - that the family were definitely NOT by the pool on Thursday 3rd.   Much more difficult to do unless the diary/daily log shows recovery of sunloungers from the pool where they had blown in, clearing leaves etc..

The group are in fact facing the road, or the bushes which protect it from the road.


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You can see the big palm tree which features in the Last Photo, and work out almost exactly where they were.  Tapas bar etc is hidden by the tree in the lower picture.

juliet wrote:I don't want to derail this thread. Perhaps you could start another one if you really want to know!

juliet wrote:Sorry PeterMac but I cannot believe in this picture. But I won't carry on about it on your thread.

HelenMeg wrote:So surely Gerry and daughters must've been sitting somewhere at bottom right of the photo in the above posts.  It cant be the same palm tree, surely? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Gerry etc must have been facing tennis courts

PeterMac wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:
He might.  
If he'd been seen with a blue bag miles away from the pool at the time he said he was at the pool.
The last photo could well be put out as alibi for Gerry as much as for Madeleine, and Kate too in a sense since she was the photographer.

It is always possible that the last photo, being a family photo, with no one else around and no one witnessed them at the pool, is perfect one for them to use for more than the purpose of proving Madeleine was alive and well at that time.  

I am curious whether the pool faces the restaurant or another resort facility that is always manned at the that time of the day? Just thinking if resort staff had seen them at the pool or if police are interviewing resort workers for this reason.  General workers like gardener, pool cleaner, sweeper and bin clearing worker, laundry staff, chambermaids moving around in between pool to apt units, or generally other resort workers whose routine get them in vicinity of the pool could well be people OG are interested to interview.  

7 people to re-interview is hell of a lot and can't be about one abductor.

That is an interesting point, but at 7 years on I think it unlikely that the staff would remember the weather conditions for a particular day, unless there were some sort of diary and daily work sheet.
They would be being asked to remember a Negative - that the family were definitely NOT by the pool on Thursday 3rd.   Much more difficult to do unless the diary/daily log shows recovery of sunloungers from the pool where they had blown in, clearing leaves etc..

The group are in fact facing the road, or the bushes which protect it from the road.


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You can see the big palm tree which features in the Last Photo, and work out almost exactly where they were.  Tapas bar etc is hidden by the tree in the lower picture.

Hicks wrote:I can't see anything wrong with the pool photo, but I suspect the date and time were changed, possible on that all important first trip back to the UK

BlueBag wrote:

Hicks wrote:I can't see anything wrong with the pool photo, but I suspect the date and time were changed, possible on that all important first trip back to the UK

100% agree.

HelenMeg wrote:

PeterMac wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:
He might.  
If he'd been seen with a blue bag miles away from the pool at the time he said he was at the pool.
The last photo could well be put out as alibi for Gerry as much as for Madeleine, and Kate too in a sense since she was the photographer.

It is always possible that the last photo, being a family photo, with no one else around and no one witnessed them at the pool, is perfect one for them to use for more than the purpose of proving Madeleine was alive and well at that time.  

I am curious whether the pool faces the restaurant or another resort facility that is always manned at the that time of the day? Just thinking if resort staff had seen them at the pool or if police are interviewing resort workers for this reason.  General workers like gardener, pool cleaner, sweeper and bin clearing worker, laundry staff, chambermaids moving around in between pool to apt units, or generally other resort workers whose routine get them in vicinity of the pool could well be people OG are interested to interview.  

7 people to re-interview is hell of a lot and can't be about one abductor.

That is an interesting point, but at 7 years on I think it unlikely that the staff would remember the weather conditions for a particular day, unless there were some sort of diary and daily work sheet.
They would be being asked to remember a Negative - that the family were definitely NOT by the pool on Thursday 3rd.   Much more difficult to do unless the diary/daily log shows recovery of sunloungers from the pool where they had blown in, clearing leaves etc..

The group are in fact facing the road, or the bushes which protect it from the road.


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You can see the big palm tree which features in the Last Photo, and work out almost exactly where they were.  Tapas bar etc is hidden by the tree in the lower picture.

Dont understand how the Last photo could have been taken where the children are sitting at the edge of the pool in the above photo........? The background of the last photo shows white wall covered in flowers.  Surely Gerry and daughters could not have been sitting where the children are sitting in the above photo. There is no white wall behind them whereas there is in the last photo? Help - I may have misinterpreted things..

PeterMac wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:So surely Gerry and daughters must've been sitting somewhere at bottom right of the photo in the above posts.  It cant be the same palm tree, surely? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Gerry etc must have been facing tennis courts

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Now look at this.  Kate is the blue box, Gerry and the two children are the red oval, purple line is the line of sight, which goes past the tree, then crosses some more terra cotta tiles, before hitting the bougainvillea covered wall.
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20 May - Gerry returns to UK
22 May - Gerry flies back to PdL WITH MITCHELL
22 May - Philomena flies out to Pdl
23 May - Last Photo sent to French Agency
24 May - Last Photo released to the world's Press with the stuff about One hour out, one hour our, Pieces of Eight, look over here

pennylane wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Hicks wrote:I can't see anything wrong with the pool photo, but I suspect the date and time were changed, possible on that all important first trip back to the UK

100% agree.

Ditto!

20.1 I have taken an initial look at the image. The artefacts alluded to in the pdf document that you sent are simply JPEG compression artefacts (as described here:  http://www.fourandsix.com/blog/2011/6/29/that-looks-fake.html ). If you magnify other parts of the image you will see similar artefacts. I also performed a forensic analysis to determine if the lighting and the shadows on the people and background are consistent -- they are. I see no other anomalies in the photo. So, at first glance, I see no evidence of photo tampering. 
I will add that it is fairly easy to change dates in an image's metadata or for these dates to be wrong. As such these dates should not be solely relied upon.
Regards,
Y Y Y Y

20.2 “From what I saw I couldn't see anything that would lead me to believe beyond reasonable doubt it had been doctored. The fringing mentioned can be caused by auto sharpening used in consumer digital cameras to make 'better' or 'sharper' images. These artefacts can often be made worse from image compression algorithms out of photoshop or other image manipulation software.”

PeterMac wrote:Now add what I left out.

20 May - Gerry returns to UK
22 May - Gerry flies back to PdL WITH MITCHELL
22 May - Philomena flies out to Pdl
23 May - Last Photo sent to French Agency
24 May - Last Photo released to the world's Press with the stuff about One hour out, one hour our, Pieces of Eight, look over here

Any pattern emerging here ?
Could it be that the very FIRST thing Mitchell did has stuffed them ?

aiyoyo wrote:

PeterMac wrote:Now add what I left out.

20 May - Gerry returns to UK
22 May - Gerry flies back to PdL WITH MITCHELL
22 May - Philomena flies out to Pdl
23 May - Last Photo sent to French Agency
24 May - Last Photo released to the world's Press with the stuff about One hour out, one hour our, Pieces of Eight, look over here

Any pattern emerging here ?
Could it be that the very FIRST thing Mitchell did has stuffed them ?

Given the circumstances surrounding the release, there is something seriously dodgy about late production for release.
 Mitchell definitely has a hand in this retrospect release, it has his hallmarks all over it.

aiyoyo wrote:I suspect the answer is probably a very straight forward one.  
No conspiracy, no big cover up.
The Mcs got very lucky with the helps and supports because they were white middle class, being doctors to top it off, a profession highly regarded, and on that basis alone that garners them the unprecedented levels of support because no one wants to believe a pair of doctors are capable of crime against their own child.

Thetruth wrote:
My comment is that you simply cannot get reflections in reflective sunglasses turning 90 degrees of their own accord. Impossible, so the photo of the glasses has been turned and the evidence is there in plain sight, so to speak.