Forensic linguistics -

tigger wrote:Copied from:

The McCanns’ libelling of others: 1. Martin Grime
aiyoyo Today at 2:41 pm on 14/4/2012


“The dogs ultimately ‘alerted’. I felt myself starting to relax a little. This was not what I would call an exact science”. Dr Kate McCann is clearly querying Mr Grimes’ expertise.

If that is lifted from her bewk, then I think it is yet another phrase that should go into the Forensic Linguistic Thread.
Why did kate start to feel relax when the dogs alerted. It does not make sense. An alert means a dead body had been in the car (no matter whose).

More importantly when she said "I felt myself starting to relax a little"- it suggests she was very tensed about the operation? It's a dead give-away she feared what the dogs might find.
Otherwise why should she be tensed? What is there to be nervous about if you're innocent and know without a shadow of doubt there's no way the dogs will find anything in the car.

But hey, this woman was relieved because she alleged the dogs alerted due to cueing. But she conveniently forgot that no matter what, the handler cant force the dogs to bark or to mark.

It's as if kate believes an owner can get a dog to bark each time it smells a stranger walks past a high fencing or closed door, in the same manner they can get they pet bull dog to bite if they dont like to hear what people are saying.
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Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

I think they will be hoping that if Madeleinne was found, there would be nothing to link them to whatever forensics are on her body, by way of abuse as she has been gone for nearly 5 years, so will be virtually nothing to stipulate the cause of death x

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

I think they will be hoping that if Madeleinne was found, there would be nothing to link them to whatever forensics are on her body, by way of abuse as she has been gone for nearly 5 years, so will be virtually nothing to stipulate the cause of death x

Nina wrote:

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

I think they will be hoping that if Madeleinne was found, there would be nothing to link them to whatever forensics are on her body, by way of abuse as she has been gone for nearly 5 years, so will be virtually nothing to stipulate the cause of death x

Hello alfie02, I suppose by this time then they will be hoping there is no forensic evidence to link to them wherever her body might be found.
They just didn't show any sorrow at the prospect of her body laying at the bottom of a murky lake.

PeterMac wrote:There is a skeleton in the caves in Nerja, ca. 40,000 BC of a woman who, it has been fairly conclusively established, died of brain complications from otitis media.
People are still finding more about the cause of death of Tutenkhamen.
The thing they fear most is the finding.
Which is why "sightings" are always good news, and searches in places more than a few metres from wherever Madeleine's remains might be are also good news.
For TM, Tapas7, Mitchell et al. of course.
Not for truth, honesty, decency, or mankind as a whole.

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

I think they will be hoping that if Madeleinne was found, there would be nothing to link them to whatever forensics are on her body, by way of abuse as she has been gone for nearly 5 years, so will be virtually nothing to stipulate the cause of death x

Hello alfie02, I suppose by this time then they will be hoping there is no forensic evidence to link to them wherever her body might be found.
They just didn't show any sorrow at the prospect of her body laying at the bottom of a murky lake.

Ys thats what i meant. There maybe no fibres etc left to link them to her unless she is "buried" with the missing blanket

tigger wrote:

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:

alfie02 wrote:

Nina wrote:And a retrieval from the bottom of a murky lake, why would that clear the McCanns?

I think they will be hoping that if Madeleinne was found, there would be nothing to link them to whatever forensics are on her body, by way of abuse as she has been gone for nearly 5 years, so will be virtually nothing to stipulate the cause of death x

Hello alfie02, I suppose by this time then they will be hoping there is no forensic evidence to link to them wherever her body might be found.
They just didn't show any sorrow at the prospect of her body laying at the bottom of a murky lake.

Ys thats what i meant. There maybe no fibres etc left to link them to her unless she is "buried" with the missing blanket

Nina
One detail in the link re the Arade dam says they retrieved a long rope with which Maddie had been bound.
If I got that news even twenty years later, I'd still be hysterical with renewed grief , evidence of the suffering of my little girl - the rope they bound her with - I could not contemplate the horror of it. Cyborgs don't have these problems.

Stewie wrote:I always find the statement analysis blog very interesting and thought this little test is quite pertinent to the McCann's and which side they fit into.....

Would amend the polygraph test to:
Innocent parents take and pass polygraphs
Guilty parents don't take or fail polygraphs

I'm sure there are many more that could be added..
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Innocent parents react one way; guilty parents react another. 


Cindy Anthony Objection:  "There's no book on grieving" or "there's no book on how to react to a missing child."


Answer:  yes, there is. 


Now 


It's thousands and thousands of pages long and it is written in the hearts of investigators everywhere, and in studies of criminal psychologists, and in academies of law enforcement in our country and internationally.  It comes down to this:


Innocent parents help.                               Guilty parents hinder. 
Innocent  parents talk.                               Guilty parents say little.
Innocent parents are desperate.               Guilty parents keep things close to the vest.
Innocent parents pass polygraphs.           Guilty parents fail them. 
Innocent parents search.                            Guilty parents complain. 
Innocent parents interview.                      Guilty parents lawyer up. 


Innocent parents care nothing but for finding the missing child; guilty parents are concerned about their reputations and public perception.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/behavioral-analysis-answers-for-ayla.html

jmac wrote:The important thing, at this time, is that we don`t have Madeleine and, err... that`s the only, err ... result that`ll clearly make Kate and I happy, and the rest of the family.

(BBC World Service 19 June 2007)

So says Gerry, but does he realise what he`s just said ?

jmac wrote:The important thing, at this time, is that we don`t have Madeleine and, err... that`s the only, err ... result that`ll clearly make Kate and I happy, and the rest of the family.

(BBC World Service 19 June 2007)

So says Gerry, but does he realise what he`s just said ?

tigger wrote:I just came across another nugget by Payne in the RI.
Considering that the body was likely kept in a fridge or freezer and the repair that had to be done in 5a was to the washing machine - is Payne once again battling his leaking memory ? He gets the blinds right but not the washing machine.

quote:
1485 "Yeah. Was there anybody around the resort or you know your, the Ocean Club in general that you weren’t happy with?”
Reply "Err we, you know we did obviously retrospectively question you know who’d been in, in to the resort to actually work there. They, on one of the days they had some err gardening people which we hadn’t you know seen before and we you know we just wondered, you know, after Madeleine had gone err you know who they were and what their you know validity was if you like. Err the, I know that again, you know Kate and Gerry had had problems err with I think it was the blinds in their flat and the fridge and they’d had people in err you know into the flat, you know which obviously retrospectively was a concern as well. Err yeah that, you know who were those people, had they been checked out.”
1485 "Mm.”
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Châtelaine wrote:We have to be very careful about internet myths.
The McCanns had a [reported] problem with the washing machine and a [proven] mechanic to fix it in 5A.
Gerry replacing a fridge/freezer from the villa, after being ousted from the OC, has been reported by many, but cannot be documented [anymore].

sami wrote:The maintenance man visited Kate to show her how to use the washing machine, i.e. he did not fix an actual fault with it. The repair during the visit was carried out to one of the window blinds which Kate said Gerry broke.