Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

by Silentscope 21.04.24 16:07

Any Judgement UNDER 2 Years can be set out to Probation, if you are Sentenced to OVER 24 Months, usually you are going to Prison.

Unlike the UK, Prisoners are released to put their Affairs in Order before having to attend an appointment at the Prison, where they are to begin their Sentence. This is when a few decide to run and hide. There are no Bail Bondsmen or 'Bounty Hunters' allowed in Germany. It is the Police's job to find them.

by **Jill Havern** 22.04.24 19:45

6 mins ago

Why is Germany Having Operation Grange Testify about Brueckner and Madeleine McCann?

Mark Saunokonoko's podcast interview with Wolters: 'Madeleine is Dead' - 31 mins
https://omny.fm/shows/they-ve-taken-her/maddies-dead#description

by Silentscope 22.04.24 20:10

Maybe the Judge has finally noticed enough inconsistencies in the evidence given so far to confirm the Brückner Setup / Scapegoat theory?

prisoner

Post #720 on this Thread refers to DC Mark Draycott being Subpoenaed by the Braunschweiger County Court.

by **Jill Havern** 24.04.24 12:51

24 Apr, 2024

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/04/24/exclusive-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-wanted-to-take-in-young-foster-children-in-portugal-paedophiles-ex-girlfriend-tells-court/

by Liz Eagles 24.04.24 13:12

Does this self proclaimed journalist have no conscience - no question mark required.

by **PeterMac** 24.04.24 16:17

Clarke has a degree in Geography from Manchester University and seems to have gone into Tabloid journalist direct for there, without any further study or training. He says he acted as a "Stringer" for the Tabloids,
2.
INFORMAL
a newspaper correspondent who is retained on a part-time basis to report on events in a particular place.

Part time = Payment by the length of the published article and the number of photos
Hence long rambling copy with side issues and lots of theory, but short of "facts'. Hence also the fraudulent use of other people's photos as his own with his

copyright stamp visible of so many which are clearly ripped off including even screen shots from Google Maps street view as we have seen

by Liz Eagles 24.04.24 16:32

Writing articles devoid of factual content seems to be quite self indulgent but so easy when owning one's own newspaper.

by Liz Eagles 24.04.24 16:49

Writing books and trying to flog them to British pensioners in Spain isn't easy.

by Silentscope 24.04.24 18:47

It is never easy trying to maintain Stories as Fact when the Facts keep destroying your Storylines.

No Maddie DNA on Scissors found in the Blue Twingo Bj 1993-2007.
German Campervan Family at Alcossebre already checked out by PJ.
HCW confirms no SEK / SWAT mission at the Kennelblick Allottments.
Mercedes Rosier has only been in Braunschweig since 31 March 2016.
White Sprinter Van never reported near Inga G Scene by a local Farmer.
Inga dissappeared in 2015. The Sprinter W907 was a Model first made in 2018!

And no Screaming was heard there either.

funnyshit

by **PeterMac** 26.04.24 6:50

https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/518370/madeleine-mccann-police-officer-called-by-defence-christian-brueckner-trial/

Madeleine McCann: police officer in kidnapping case to defend prime suspect Christian Brueckner

Katy and Gerry McCann commented on Brueckner as a suspect back in 2022

Detective Mark Draycott was one of the key investigators into Madeleine’s disappearance and will be travelling to Germany as part of the defence team to answer questions about Helge Busching’s witness testimony. According to reports, the suspect’s defence lawyers believe they can discredit the witness due to inconsistencies in his testimony.

Helge claims to be a former friend of Brueckner, who testified that the convicted rapist had confessed to him that Madeleine “didn’t scream” after he took her from her hotel room in Praia de Luz back in 2007. Helge also claimed that he saw videos of Brueckner committing sexual assault after taking them from Brueckner’s room, but has since lost the evidence.
He further claimed that despite reporting it on a hotline about Maddie McCann, he was never questioned further about his suspicions. Mark was the officer who took the statement from the witness back in 2017, having worked on ‘Operation Grange’ since 2011. However, the prosecution has insisted that Mark can’t be asked questions regarding the McCann case. A private investigator hired by the family to look into Madeleine’s disappearance, Dave Edgar, has also been requested to testify. END

I think that is a matter for the JUDGE ! ! !

by crusader 26.04.24 8:03

The current trial of Brueckner has nothing to do with Draycott or Edgar.

by **PeterMac** 26.04.24 9:33

crusader wrote:The current trial of Brueckner has nothing to do with Draycott or Edgar.

Strange legal evidential situation - in English Law terms

Draycott is going give direct evidence of what he was told about about Hearsay evidence.

by Cake Lover 26.04.24 9:39

How does that work, when hearsay is inadmissible?

by Silentscope 26.04.24 10:00

The Statement given to Draycott was supplied to der Spiegel, where most of the Paragraphs relating to Madeleine were blacked out.

The British Press were reporting at that time about a 'Confession'.

That 'Confession' was later revealed to be that Brückner had said 'She did not even Scream' which Helge Busching thought to mean he was there when Madeleine was 'Abducted'.

So Brückner never 'Confessed' to having taken Madeleine, it is just the supposition of an ill-informed Witness to a conversation.

A conversation that other Witnesses deny even happened.

It is about time to see what Busching and the Met are hiding behind the blacked out portions of this Statement.

Hearsay (Hörensagen) rules are also written into German Law, if needs be, Witnesses can be Sworn in / Placed under Oath (Vereidigt) so that if they then Lie (knowingly or unknowingly) there are extra Penalties.

Their only Defence would be Silence.

by **Jill Havern** 26.04.24 11:28

EXCLUSIVE: MADELEINE MCCANN SUSPECT CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER’S VAN ‘HAD TWO HIDDEN COMPARTMENTS’ INCLUDING ONE IN THE FLOOR: COPS SEARCH THE VEHICLE FOR DNA OF ‘GERMAN MADDIE’ INGA GEHRICKE

1 hour ago

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/04/26/exclusive-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckners-van-had-two-hidden-compartments-including-one-in-the-floor-cops-search-the-vehicle-for-dna-of-german-maddie-inga-gehricke/

EXCLUSIVE By Jon Clarke and Rainer Buckhard in Braunschweig
COPS have discovered a van driven by Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner had secret compartments.
The white Mercedes had been adapted to create two hidden spaces, one in the wall and one in the floor, the Olive Press can reveal.
German detectives seized the Sprinter van from its new owner earlier this month to check for DNA matches with missing Inga Gehricke, 5.
They believe he was driving it when the German toddler – dubbed the ‘German Maddie’ – vanished in remarkably similar circumstances and almost the same date.
They are now scouring it ‘for any DNA links to Maddie or other missing children,’ revealed a spokesman for the official Mercedes dealership.
The woman – who works at the Rosier garage, in Braunschweig, where Brueckner lived for four years – added: “Police turned up a few weeks ago and we passed on the details of the new owner, who lives nearby”.
This week, the new owner, Norbert F, confirmed the van had been dramatically seized, with police telling him it was being ‘impounded over various possible crimes’.
The delivery driver, 45, told the Olive Press: “It was a big shock but at least the police are paying for me to have a new van.”

It comes after we gave a tip off to the German BKA police last month that Brueckner was driving the vehicle at the time Inga was snatched.
We had discovered he had driven it various times to Spain and Portugal, where Maddie, 3, went missing on May 3, 2007.
Incredibly, Inga – who looked remarkably similar, with blonde hair and blue eyes – also vanished without trace on May 2, 2015.
The only evidence of Inga’s abduction in Saxony-Anhalt was a scream reported by a local farmer, while a witness reported seeing a white van driving away down a narrow nearby lane.
The day before Inga went missing – May 2 – Brueckner was involved in a car accident not far from the Wilmersdorf woods, in Stendal, where the toddler was snatched.

Brueckner allegedly had a friend working at a charity facility for ex-prisoners next door.
He owned a derelict box factory, in Neuwegersleben, just 90 kilometres away, where police later found thousands of child porn videos and photos, many in which Brueckner appeared.
While he has been twice probed over the crime, so far police have been unable to charge him.
The police files, however, were recently transferred to a new force, in Halle, who have reopened the file against him.
So far three recent searches of the area have been inconclusive.
The white van had been returned to the dealership by Brueckner ‘suddenly’ in early 2016.
He handed it back just before fleeing to live in Portugal again, we have established.
It came just after he had been convicted of the abuse of ANOTHER five-year-old, the daughter of an ex-girlfriend Anja K, in Braunschweig.
The Sprinter van had ‘clearly been adapted’ and was ‘badly scratched and dented’, revealed a worker at the Rosier dealership, who spoke to him on the day he returned it.
“I couldn’t help but laugh when he opened the back door as it was in such a bad state,” he said.
“He made a joke and said: ‘It still looks great right!’ and added: ‘I’m sure you can ignore all the scratches out of goodwill’.
“I said we would be the ones to decide that after we have looked at everything and tell him the cost.”
The employee continued: “As he walked off, he said: ‘It was a really good van’.
He confirmed the garage later discovered ‘a lot of tinkering’ had gone on and it would have been impossible to get it back to a decent shape again.
There were holes drilled in its floor and sides where he had ‘constructed hiding places’ and there was ‘a lot of paint damage’, the tyres were ‘worn out’ and it had ‘never been’ properly cleaned.
There were also a ‘lot of dents’ on the underbelly meaning the convicted paedophile had likely frequently driven it on rough dirt tracks.
“Basically there wasn’t a spot that wasn’t damaged in some way,” explained the employee.
He added it would have taken ‘too long’ to get it back to a good shape and it was effectively sold on, via another garage, as a ‘write off’.
“It was a real mess and it could never have been cleaned properly – it was too dirty, too damaged – so we just gave it a basic clean and passed it to another dealer,” he revealed.
“I’m sure if there were DNA traces there, the police will find them.”
According to friends, Brueckner had immediately adapted the Mercedes and drove it on ‘dozens of long trips’ around Europe.
He installed an ‘artificial partition wall’ by ‘attaching panels to the original interior panelling’, explained one pal, who drove with him on a few occasions.
“They were effectively double walls perfect to transport drugs and other things from Portugal and Spain to Germany,” said the pal, who worked at a kiosk he rented in Braunschweig.
“He also installed a secret space in the floor,” he added.
While he reinstalled the original panels before returning the van, he couldn’t fix the holes drilled in the side panels and floor, confirmed the Rosier employee.
The prosecutor in the case against Christian Brueckner, Hans Christian Wolters, said he was ‘unable’ to comment on the case.
“It is not my jurisdiction, but in another region of Germany,” he told the Olive Press.
A source at the crack German BKA police force, which is investigating the case, said: “Thanks for the tip, we will let you know if and when we find anything.”
He added the force was still looking to track down at least two other vehicles.
The court case against Brueckner over five sex crimes committed in Portugal between 2000 and 2017 continues today.
On Wednesday, the Judge agreed with Brueckner’s lawyers that a detective from Scotland Yard, who has investigated the Maddie case for years, should give evidence.
DC Mark Draycott, who has worked on Operation Grange since 2011, is expected to answer questions next week.
In particular, he was the first policeman to officially interview witness Helge Busching, who told him about Brueckner’s sex crimes in Greece in 2018.
He and his immediate boss, hired a hotel room in Athens to grill the former German associate of Brueckner’s about his knowledge of the Maddie case and about the rape videos he allegedly made.
He is not expected to answer any questions about the Maddie case, which will follow on from this current trial.
This week, a retired judge who caged Bruckner for seven years in 2019 for a sickening rape of a pensioner in Portugal, explained her reasoning for her decision.
Judge Gerstin Dreyer recalled the evidence, including the fact that Portuguese Police found a hair of Brueckner’s on the bed of the American Diana Menkes, 72, in Praia da Luz.
The convicted paedophile had filmed the long late night attack in which he sadistically beat her before raping her.

by Silentscope 26.04.24 11:39

Give it up Jon.

That Model Sprinter Van was not even built before 2018.
Inga dissappeared in 2015.

duh

by Silentscope 26.04.24 14:12

Original Picture of the 'INGA / MADDIE Van in Neuwegersleben.

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Mercedes picture from German Ebay
Source: https://www.ebay.com/itm/303482860202

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Mercedes now changed to the later Model by the Olive Press.

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Mercedes Van in the Scrapyard of Bernard Piro in Portugal.

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by Silentscope 27.04.24 9:31

One day before Inga Gehricke disappeared,1 May 2015 Christian Brückner had a small Accident on a Petrol Station car park on the A2 Motorway near Helmstadt where he hit another vehicle while parking. He was driving a dark coloured Mercedes Vito Van at the time.

Some Press Report it as his, others say it was borrowed from a friend.
Regardless, the Police were called and attended the scene.

During the Inga G investigation there was a Profile made of Brückners movements by Cell phone logs, which proved he had never been in the Area of Wilhelmshof in Stendal where Inga was last seen.

The Site of the disappearance was 100 Kms North East of Brückners accident on the A2.

None of her DNA or Pictures were found at the Neuwegersleben site.

Brückner could therefore not be identified as a Suspect in her case.

Source: https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/vermisste-inga-handy-des-verdaechtigen-im-maddie-fall-war-nicht-am-tatort-eingeloggt_id_12092976.html

by Ladyinred 27.04.24 16:45

Daily mail today:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13341059/I-fled-UK-meet-Christian-Brueckner-Portugals-drifters-Madeleine-McCann.html

by Silentscope 27.04.24 17:19

Well, we all look forward to Mr Ralphs testimony under Oath.

Braunschweig might even call the Cumbria Police as witnesses.
The ones who say it is all crap, and he never said anything to them?

A man’s claims that he gave Workington police information that could be related to Madeline McCann’s disappearance has been refuted by Cumbria Constabulary.
Ken Ralphs, a former UK political campaigner, told Sky News that Christian B, the German drifter suspected of abducting Madeleine, tried to recruit a mutual friend to help find a youngster to sell to a childless couple – one week before Madeline disappeared.

Source: https://cumbriacrack.com/2024/02/08/cumbria-police-refute-claims-of-having-information-relating-to-madeline-mccanns-disappearance/

If Brückner had ever worked even 'Cash in hand' at the Ocean Club, the Mark Warner group or the PJ would have been able to find that out.

Do the PJ have this entry about the Kids being left alone in the Staff Message Book, or is it conveniently missing, like Helge Bs Videos?

by **Jill Havern** 02.05.24 11:21

Madeleine McCann case blown wide open after mysterious voicemail left on Scotland Yard phone
Det Con Mark Draycott, 49, has been called by the defence team to give evidence in the trial of convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner

ByMartin Fricker, in Braunschweig
2 May 2024

A Met Police detective told today how the Madeleine McCann case was blown open by a voicemail left on a Scotland Yard answer machine.
Det Con Mark Draycott is the first police officer to answer questions in court about the youngster’s 2007 disappearance. He has worked on Operation Grange, the £13 million probe into the Madeleine case, since it was launched in 2011. DC Draycott, 49, was called by the defence team to give evidence in the trial of convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner.
The German was dramatically named by prosecutors as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance in 2020. Brueckner’s former friend Helge Busching, who knew him in the Algarve in the mid-2000s, tipped off Scotland Yard in 2017.

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Met Police's Det Con Mark Draycott arrived in Germany yesterday to appear as a witness in Brueckner's trial
Image:
The Daily Mirror
He claimed the German told him during a conversation that “she did not scream” when the pair discussed her disappearance. DC Draycott told the court in Braunschweig that the original tip was left on a Scotland Yard answer machine in May 2017.
“Back then we still had a public phone number which was publicised around the world,” he said. Members of the public could ring in information in relation to Operation Grange, the Madeleine McCann investigation. One of my jobs was to check the answer phone messages. On May 18th I checked the answer phone and there was a message.
“It was from a male by the sound of his voice, he spoke good English and he asked to speak to David Edgar (private investigator). He said he had information and he left a Greek mobile number. I then rang this Greek mobile number and spoke to a male I now know to be Helge Lars Busching. He referred to himself as Lars and he gave information in relation to the Madeleine McCann investigation.”

DC Draycott shared the information with German and Portuguese authorities, sparking the probe into Brueckner. He was part of a Scotland Yard team which flew to Athens days later to question Busching in top secrecy. The interview took place in a hotel - after bugging equipment was brought in to check for listening devices.

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Brueckner was jailed for the rape of a pensioner in 2019 and is serving a seven-year prison term

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Brueckner’s former friend Helge Busching, who knew him in the Algarve in the mid-2000s, tipped off Scotland Yard in 2017, the court heard

Busching had been released from a Greek jail weeks earlier and was on parole at the time. “We spoke to him over two days and he gave us information in relation to the Madeleine McCann case,” DC Draycott revealed. “At that stage he did not want to give a statement to us.
“However as the line of inquiry continued he was happy to give a statement to British police. He said he had a conversation with Christian at the Orgiva Festival in 2008. That conversation was in relation to Operation Grange. I can’t talk about that.”
Asked by the judge if Busching was given any “promises” by detectives, DC Draycott replied: “We don’t make promises to witnesses. We never pay witnesses for information. We may be able to pay for some expenses and we did pay some expenses. We paid €35 euros for him to get to the coach to Athens to meet us and we gave him expenses to get back to where he lived in Greece We also booked a cheap hotel for him to stay in Athens.”

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The convicted paedophile is charged with raping an Irish tour rep, a teenage girl and an elderly woman in her holiday apartment
DC Draycott said Busching flew to London in February 2018 to give a formal statement at Scotland Yard. “That statement had already been prepared to a certain degree due to the info he had provided,” he said. “The statement was taken in English. Busching had the opportunity to go over the statement and he signed a declaration to that effect He had a German interpreter present throughout. That statement was translated into German and also Portuguese and shared with our colleagues in those respective countries.”
He said Busching was unwell when the statement was taken - but was determined to help police probing Madeleine’s disappearance. “He complained of not feeling well. He said he had eaten something dodgy,” said DC Draycott. “But he was happy for the statement to be taken. He was only with us for a matter of a couple of hours. He had travelled a long way and still wanted to help police.”
In 2011, under the then-Home Secretary Theresa May, Scotland Yard was asked to take over the investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance. Since then they have been given more than £13 million in funding for Operation Grange from the government. Last month Scotland Yard applied for a further grant of £100,000, which is expected to be given the green light.
Brueckner, 48, is on trial accused of carrying out a string of sex attacks in Portugal between 2000 and 2017. He is charged with raping an Irish tour rep, a teenage girl and an elderly woman in her holiday apartment. The German also allegedly exposed himself to a German girl on a beach and a group of children in a playground.
Madeleine was on a family holiday in Praia da Luz where she vanished in May 2007. Brueckner denies any involvement in her disappearance.
He was jailed for the rape of a pensioner in 2019 and is serving a seven-year prison term. The trial continues.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-case-blown-wide-32718161

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27673758/brit-cop-madeleine-mccann-court-brueckner/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13374715/British-cop-involved-search-Madeleine-McCann-reveals-dealings-major-witness-time-giving-evidence-Christian-Brueckner-rape-trial.html

by Silentscope 02.05.24 12:39

May 18 2007 was a Friday. Exactly 2 weeks after the Anniversary of Maddie's 'Abduction'.

Busching used the Mobile phone of an Albanian woman to place the call to OG, not his own.

I have an unsupported Suspicion that Helge Busching's Cancer diagnosis began not last Month, but maybe before he was let out of Prison early?

Complaining of Stomach upsets during the OG Interview, having lost Wheight before his Bild Interview all points in that direction.

But if according to another Video witness, Manfred S, Busching was 'Hoppa Hoppa' Drunk and had lots of Money after this Hotel interview.

So who gave him the Money then if it was not from OG?

by Liz Eagles 02.05.24 20:31

PeterMac wrote:
crusader wrote:The current trial of Brueckner has nothing to do with Draycott or Edgar.
Strange legal evidential situation - in English Law terms

Draycott is going give direct evidence of what he was told about about Hearsay evidence.

Brueckner is on trial for other crime. Why is a Scotland Yard detective being asked to give evidence? I don't understand.